I for got to mention. cumbox quit over the whole deal.he was mad about taking so long to fix forum,they had "other" priorities and he can keep track of who is on here and who is member but not who is saving,needed a techie and they are working on the dating site. so he got mad and quit, think maybe that is part of why the MOD is mad at me,now has no one to run the forum. I told him get the pic stealing stopped and I will start posting, but said right now NOT a priority... man I am bored to death especially this time of year!.. another month or so I would just go fishing