Another awkward weekend
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Slee,
Here, Kate has the right idea. She might appreciate it if you were to refer her to:
The Stronger Sex Physically (is female…)
Comments: The Stronger Sex Physically
and:
Best Mixed Wrestling Holds (for women to use on men)
Comments: Best mixed wrestling holds
—Custer
slee89 said:
Here, Kate has the right idea. She might appreciate it if you were to refer her to:
The Stronger Sex Physically (is female…)
Comments: The Stronger Sex Physically
and:
Best Mixed Wrestling Holds (for women to use on men)
Comments: Best mixed wrestling holds
—Custer
Haha. So I just watched a movie with them and they were all coupley? it bugged me a little bc she was like completely ignoring me and honestly felt like she was purposely trying to be super sweet to him. Again I DO NOT want to date her but I guess it felt like he was moving into my territory? (even tho it's really the other way around) Also he made this ONE remark that kind of annoyed me (I can be a dick sometimes, and honestly I'm being a dick) so today I was just kind of a little annoyed. Kate later try to catch up with me after ignoring me so I just ignored her haha.
Next time we have sex I'm gonna cum all over her face/mouth.
It's weird b/c I dont want to have that "talk" but unless we acknowledge what happened and talk about it this isn't going to be consistent. I really dont want to have that talk tho..
Next time we have sex I'm gonna cum all over her face/mouth.
It's weird b/c I dont want to have that "talk" but unless we acknowledge what happened and talk about it this isn't going to be consistent. I really dont want to have that talk tho..
Regarding:
Not necessarily. Only if your married woman wants that...
That's good. It's really important to sexually-satisfy your married woman...
All good...
If Kate's husband "pisses her off" and she doesn't bring him to acceptance of your role as her lover and his natural role in her marriage as her submissive cuckold, you may find your married woman becoming an ex-married woman who expects YOU to marry her (something you may not want, at this point)...
What's the difference between "dating" your married woman and "meeting her" from time-to-time so she can fuck you...?
That, of course, is the kind of relationship a married woman should have with her lover(s), and you should have with her in order to maintain your friendship with her husband...
That's a reasonable assumption...
You aren't there yet, re. expecting your friend to suck your cock (and may never be). I suggest easing off, though, with making fun of him. Since he's now in a vulnerable position, that could lead to a bad outcome. (Think of all the news stories about aggrieved husbands who shoot their wives' lovers and/or their wives, and all the people who say afterwards: "He seemed like such a nice guy... he didn't ever seem like the kind of person who would do that...")
The photo of your married woman you posted suggests subtle strength and coordination. If you... preferably, you and she... read through the forum links I passed along (above), you'll see that if you encourage her to join a gym and begin working out with weights — say, 3 time a week with aerobic exercise in between — and if she does it regularly and keeps at it, there's a very good chance she'll be stronger than her husband after 1 to 2 years, if she isn't already, and she won't have unattractive bulging muscles as a result. Rather, she'll look even more attractive than she does now.
Being stronger than her husband, and demonstrating that from time to time by (for instance) being able to beat him at arm wrestling, and/or by being able to pull his pants down, put him over her knees, and give him an OTK spanking (whether he wants one or not), would go a long way toward establishing and maintaining her position as the dominant partner in her marriage and head of her household (HOH), and John's position as her submissive cuckold. As HOH acknowledged as such by John, in turn, your married woman would be able to maximize her sexual satisfaction by taking lovers whenever she wishes — such as you, for instance.
What will "the talk" consist of, when you and your married woman have it? I suggest thinking about it, and also about how "your talk" with Ms. Kate will not imply she will end her marriage with your friend John, but rather that she will bring him to full acceptance of his marital role as her cuckold.
slee89 said:
Not necessarily. Only if your married woman wants that...
slee89 said:
That's good. It's really important to sexually-satisfy your married woman...
slee89 said:
All good...
slee89 said:
If Kate's husband "pisses her off" and she doesn't bring him to acceptance of your role as her lover and his natural role in her marriage as her submissive cuckold, you may find your married woman becoming an ex-married woman who expects YOU to marry her (something you may not want, at this point)...
slee89 said:
What's the difference between "dating" your married woman and "meeting her" from time-to-time so she can fuck you...?
slee89 said:
That, of course, is the kind of relationship a married woman should have with her lover(s), and you should have with her in order to maintain your friendship with her husband...
slee89 said:
That's a reasonable assumption...
slee89 said:
You aren't there yet, re. expecting your friend to suck your cock (and may never be). I suggest easing off, though, with making fun of him. Since he's now in a vulnerable position, that could lead to a bad outcome. (Think of all the news stories about aggrieved husbands who shoot their wives' lovers and/or their wives, and all the people who say afterwards: "He seemed like such a nice guy... he didn't ever seem like the kind of person who would do that...")
slee89 said:
The photo of your married woman you posted suggests subtle strength and coordination. If you... preferably, you and she... read through the forum links I passed along (above), you'll see that if you encourage her to join a gym and begin working out with weights — say, 3 time a week with aerobic exercise in between — and if she does it regularly and keeps at it, there's a very good chance she'll be stronger than her husband after 1 to 2 years, if she isn't already, and she won't have unattractive bulging muscles as a result. Rather, she'll look even more attractive than she does now.
Being stronger than her husband, and demonstrating that from time to time by (for instance) being able to beat him at arm wrestling, and/or by being able to pull his pants down, put him over her knees, and give him an OTK spanking (whether he wants one or not), would go a long way toward establishing and maintaining her position as the dominant partner in her marriage and head of her household (HOH), and John's position as her submissive cuckold. As HOH acknowledged as such by John, in turn, your married woman would be able to maximize her sexual satisfaction by taking lovers whenever she wishes — such as you, for instance.
slee89 said:
What will "the talk" consist of, when you and your married woman have it? I suggest thinking about it, and also about how "your talk" with Ms. Kate will not imply she will end her marriage with your friend John, but rather that she will bring him to full acceptance of his marital role as her cuckold.
Thanks for the input. They aren't technically married yet but yeah..they have a odd relationship (duhh) b/c they are engaged but aren't actively trying set a date or plan a wedding.. probably b/c having a kid is $$$
Kate always brags about how she is stronger and can do more push up than John. She is surprising pretty pound for pound. I know her.. she will DEF not go to the gym 3 times a week haha. She is just has good genes..com'on an asian girl with that rack and waist!?
Thanks for your concern but John is def not gonna harm me but I have chilled with the jokes until he started cracking on me today which for odd reason REALLY iritated me haha.
The "talk" would be me asking her things like what are we doing? What is the purpose of this, how does John feel, how does she feel etc. I feel like it'd just complicate this relationship. I highly doubt she'll leave John b/c she had so many chance to do so. I want to say I'm probably just a new "rush" for them..b/c I remember talking to John at the club saying how their sex lives are soo boring b/c it's the same people, same positions, same order.
Kate always brags about how she is stronger and can do more push up than John. She is surprising pretty pound for pound. I know her.. she will DEF not go to the gym 3 times a week haha. She is just has good genes..com'on an asian girl with that rack and waist!?
Thanks for your concern but John is def not gonna harm me but I have chilled with the jokes until he started cracking on me today which for odd reason REALLY iritated me haha.
The "talk" would be me asking her things like what are we doing? What is the purpose of this, how does John feel, how does she feel etc. I feel like it'd just complicate this relationship. I highly doubt she'll leave John b/c she had so many chance to do so. I want to say I'm probably just a new "rush" for them..b/c I remember talking to John at the club saying how their sex lives are soo boring b/c it's the same people, same positions, same order.
But more I hear about this cuckold thing from other posts makes me wanna make him my bitch HAHA. I read this one about how a woman tricked her husband eating her bf cum thinking it was his. I would enjoy the idea of him swallow my cum.. THAT is establishing alpha male status! I mean like him cleaning her up or from a cup. I dont wanna jerk in front of him or have him go down on me.
slee89 said:
You're welcome. A reason Kate and John aren't planning a wedding may be that Kate is reluctant to give up her freedom to fuck other men (such as you) and John is aware she wants to do that (but doesn't object, at least not strenuously). Thus, you might introduce Kate to the concept of the "cuckold husband / hotwife" marriage by suggesting she read, for instance:
Susan Gower on natural cuckolding of husbands by married women:
The Science of Cuckoldry Cuckold Couple
and
Dr. Cherry Lee on the cuckold husband / hotwife phenomenon:
The Cuckold Phenomena Cuckold Couple
slee89 said:
I'll have to say, this is the first time I've heard female beauty described on a "per pound" basis...
slee89 said:
Well, that's OK. It sounds like as far as being physically stronger than her fiance, Ms. Kate is already there. You might suggest she establish that unambiguously by challenging John to an arm-wrestling contest. If she does that in your presence (and wins), so much the better. Even if John wins, she could chide him saying something like: "Hah — you had to work pretty hard, didn't you...? Are you sure you'll be able to win next time...?
On the minus side, she might then challenge you to an arm-wrestling contest. (Are you confident you would win?) Regardless, if Ms. Kate establishes herself as the dominant partner with respect to John, she will then be in a good position to tell him, when she wishes, it's time for him to marry her — that is, on her terms (say, a "cuckold husband / hotwife" marriage).
slee89 said:
I'll resist the urge to suggest "That's what they all say...", but instead will suggest (as I already did) you take into account the desirability of treating John with respect, even at times when you feel sort of pissed off at him.
slee89 said:
That's up to you to judge, of course...
slee89 said:
It doesn't seem to be unusual for a woman to marry, or take on as an LTR partner, a man she feels will treat her well and be a good father for any children they may have together — i.e., who is a "nice guy" — while simultaneously being attracted to other men for sex who are more macho, "manly" and assertive but are maybe not such nice guys, so she wouldn't want to live with them full-time. This is not to suggest you aren't a "nice guy," but it sounds like Ms. Kate's relationship with John may be somewhat along these lines.
slee89 said:
Could be...
slee89 said:
Yes, I think I know which one you're talking about. The way she went about it was rather hot, actually...
slee89 said:
Well, you'll need to get there gradually... not, I suggest, by being a bullying asshole. And, you'll need to do it via the relationship you establish with John's fiance Ms. Kate.
That, in turn, means you'll need to begin talking with Ms. Kate about the nature of your and her relationship vis-a-vis her relationship with John. A way to begin, I suggest, would be to encourage her to read the articles by Susan Gower and Cherry Lee at the above 2 links for purposes of establishing in her mind the concept of a "cuckold husband / hotwife" marriage as a realistic possibility for her and John.
You might also find it helpful to introduce Ms. Kate to "Scandalous Women" e-zine, here:
Scandalouswomen Scandalouswomen - The Online Women's Magazine for sexuality, Dating Tips, and Hot Guys
in which the "Cuckold Husband / Hotwife Phenomenon" article (by Cherry Lee, Ph.D., although it isn't attributed), can also be found, here:
Scandalouswomen The Cuckold Husband / Hotwife Phenomena
alone with many other articles that may be of interest to her.
Scandalouswomen Scandalouswomen - The Online Women's Magazine for sexuality, Dating Tips, and Hot Guys
in which the "Cuckold Husband / Hotwife Phenomenon" article (by Cherry Lee, Ph.D., although it isn't attributed), can also be found, here:
Scandalouswomen The Cuckold Husband / Hotwife Phenomena
alone with many other articles that may be of interest to her.
No I saw her pump out 40 legit push ups.. pretty good bc I know girls who can't even do 5.
I guess I'll talk to her sometime. At one point we were like texting frequently and just flirting. Now we are just.. casual. Haven't really had sex or seen her since the movies.
Me and John's thing was stupid. we were just making fun of each other over dumb things like if one of us stuttered we'd make fun of each other. I usually call him things like "kid" or what not while playing cards and he called me that and it just seemed out of his character. So I felt like he was doing it on purpose? So Idk we just got very competitive.
I guess I'll talk to her sometime. At one point we were like texting frequently and just flirting. Now we are just.. casual. Haven't really had sex or seen her since the movies.
Me and John's thing was stupid. we were just making fun of each other over dumb things like if one of us stuttered we'd make fun of each other. I usually call him things like "kid" or what not while playing cards and he called me that and it just seemed out of his character. So I felt like he was doing it on purpose? So Idk we just got very competitive.
I'm not sure if you are serious or not. She said she used to be able to do 60 push ups and everyone said no way and she pumped out 40.. now towards the end they weren't perfect but still. that triggered everyone to do push ups to see how much we could do. John did 41.. hahaha he was struggling but he did like legit push ups and he really wanted to beat kate.
UPDATE:
So a lot of our friends went to a huge bar last night bc it was a friend's bday dinner. we were all there and shared drinks w/e. John didn't want to go so Kate asked if I wanted to go so I said sure. We drank and she just seemed different.. very not flirty so I didn't want to seem pressed. I tried a little here and there to poke her or what not and she wasn't very responsive. We just chilled/chatted with our friends but didn't do anything physical or sexual..I hugged her good bye and it just didn't feel right to kiss or anything.. usually she is super bubbly/flirty/touchy but not last night.
I think I might just keep it at that and not call her and ask her whats up or w/e. They are moving to a house now and maybe shes stressed or what not. It's bittersweet b/c I wasn't sure how this would work and idk. but I did get some good pussy from her and also it sucks b/c after reading some posts cuckolding/humilation sounds pretty fun. Like making John wear underwear when we go ball or him cleaning up after me. But I guess fantasys are fantasys.
UPDATE:
So a lot of our friends went to a huge bar last night bc it was a friend's bday dinner. we were all there and shared drinks w/e. John didn't want to go so Kate asked if I wanted to go so I said sure. We drank and she just seemed different.. very not flirty so I didn't want to seem pressed. I tried a little here and there to poke her or what not and she wasn't very responsive. We just chilled/chatted with our friends but didn't do anything physical or sexual..I hugged her good bye and it just didn't feel right to kiss or anything.. usually she is super bubbly/flirty/touchy but not last night.
I think I might just keep it at that and not call her and ask her whats up or w/e. They are moving to a house now and maybe shes stressed or what not. It's bittersweet b/c I wasn't sure how this would work and idk. but I did get some good pussy from her and also it sucks b/c after reading some posts cuckolding/humilation sounds pretty fun. Like making John wear underwear when we go ball or him cleaning up after me. But I guess fantasys are fantasys.
So a update.. i haven't really hung out with them in a long time. They live about 45 minutes from me and we have our own busy lives. John and i met up with few friends for happy hour a couple of weeks ago but besides that i really haven't heard of them since late summer. we are still cool of course.
Because of this lay off.. me and kate are obviously awkward and now we just pretended nothing really happened from the couple of phone calls we had. They recently had a big fight because of how much John makes and also Kate emotionally cheated on John with another guy. Kate called me to talk..John not much of a talker.
Today we talked about the money issue and not sure how this came up but their sex lives came up.. it was def her. she complained not getting enough from John and how she almost has to beg him.. I SHIT YOU NOT.
Now you guys know my past relationships with her and honestly ideally i would LOVE a cuckold relationship as their bull..but just without him watching and being too involved.
I asked her how much they have sex and she said maybe twice on a good week but she wants to have sex about almost once a day. I kept up a front saying things like "no way.. i dont believe you..etc" to egg her on more about how he doesn't have much of a libido.
I finally bit the bullet and said..even tho they just had a fight of her emotionally cheating "maybe you should ask him if it would be ok if you had a friend with benefit just for sex?"
i wasn't sure how that would fly and she wasn't like OMG great answer but def took it into consideration. In fact before we hung up i offered some advice on the money issue and she said she'll do it.. AND added that she'll ask him about the friends with benefit thing haha.
How can i set this up..?? any suggestions? advices?? things i could say?? I realy want this to work out
Because of this lay off.. me and kate are obviously awkward and now we just pretended nothing really happened from the couple of phone calls we had. They recently had a big fight because of how much John makes and also Kate emotionally cheated on John with another guy. Kate called me to talk..John not much of a talker.
Today we talked about the money issue and not sure how this came up but their sex lives came up.. it was def her. she complained not getting enough from John and how she almost has to beg him.. I SHIT YOU NOT.
Now you guys know my past relationships with her and honestly ideally i would LOVE a cuckold relationship as their bull..but just without him watching and being too involved.
I asked her how much they have sex and she said maybe twice on a good week but she wants to have sex about almost once a day. I kept up a front saying things like "no way.. i dont believe you..etc" to egg her on more about how he doesn't have much of a libido.
I finally bit the bullet and said..even tho they just had a fight of her emotionally cheating "maybe you should ask him if it would be ok if you had a friend with benefit just for sex?"
i wasn't sure how that would fly and she wasn't like OMG great answer but def took it into consideration. In fact before we hung up i offered some advice on the money issue and she said she'll do it.. AND added that she'll ask him about the friends with benefit thing haha.
How can i set this up..?? any suggestions? advices?? things i could say?? I realy want this to work out
