Psychology of a Cuckold

[Richard and Maria Pike]

What evidence is there (if any) that men with 'higher than average testosterone levels' also tend to have 'higher than average intellects'? My instant impression is, that would be hard to prove (if it's true at all).

I am also skeptical. I live where there are lots of "traditional" men, cowboys etc., with lots of testosterone but they also have the sexual imagination of a baked potato.

A point you omitted (which I "edited in" briefly) is that women, who also produce testosterone but significantly less than men, apparently produce increasing testosterone levels as they age into their 30's. This tends to underlie women's sex drives peaking during their 30's while their tendencies to become more "dominant" (if they have such inclinations) also peak. Or so "they" say...

"They" are probably right. I was a good girl until my late 20s, got slutty in my mid 30s, now I am 40 and my panties are easier to get into than a community college.

Simultaneously, as you point out, the "virility" of such a woman's erstwhile alpha-man husband is declining.

Not sure I agree. My husband is as virile as ever. My "cheating ways" are just icing for our sexual cake, not by any means an indicator of lack of virility on his part.

MP

 

[slinky67]

i agree

I agree, of any sexual act i would choose if it were to be my last, for me sloppy seconds is easily the one i would choose, everytime...even better if he was hung! Yet to experience anything else that has done it for me like that.

I just found it funny that it rated in a wide/general study...and that it was described as well as to what it is...the fact that it was so popular, yet the term cuckold still not so common yet the desire for men to see their women with other guys...even if it is only through porn, must have a greater following that even older cucks like us probably realise.

 

[Harry2614]

I was trying to explain the question at hand ie: Male pattern baldness and a seemingly correlation to cuckold's as documented by DOC.
I didn't state it as a 'general rule' nor would it be a 'general rule that a woman that marries a small cock man, because she loves him for other attributes, will always make him a cuckold.

It is commonly stated that the 'mind' is the biggest (of most influence) sex organ. I didn't include the influence of the mind, nor the influence of 'genes' because neither are predictable.

I am not sure of all the reasons for the rise of DHT. Genes would surely be a factor. Diet would be a big factor. As we men know from experience, Our diet depends a lot on how our woman/wife chooses and prepares our food. Heredity and genes and even 'blood type' determine what foods we will thrive best with.

As DOC is finding in his research, the mind (how a man thinks of himself) is a primary factor. This after all of our postulating and wondering, may still be what is controlling all the rest. DHT, Hormone distribution, Diet and even Virility.
Cheers, Harry

 

[Custer Laststand]

Baked potatoes and community colleges, you say... awright.

Hi Ms. Maria Pike,

I am also skeptical. I live where there are lots of "traditional" men, cowboys etc., with lots of testosterone but they also have the sexual imagination of a baked potato.

HAH! That's a great line...

"They" are probably right. I was a good girl until my late 20s, got slutty in my mid 30s, now I am 40 and my panties are easier to get into than a community college.

HAH HAH!! Another great line...

Not sure I agree. My husband is as virile as ever. My "cheating ways" are just icing for our sexual cake, not by any means an indicator of lack of virility on his part. —MP

Ah well... two out of three seems reasonably satisfying. Perhaps men in their upper thirties to lower forties experiencing their virility starting downhill as their wives gain sexuality tends to be true in some broad sense, but not necessarily in individual cases.

Your husband sounds like a good example of a "voluntary" cuckold, with your "icing on the cake" cuckolding of him adding what I referred to (above) as a sort of emotional/erotic skydiving spice to your marriage.

In any case, it's good to hear your cuckold husband / hotwife marriage is going well for both of you. And, thanks for your great analogies...

—Custer

 

[Cuckold64]

Question for the Doc, and everybody else:

How prevalent is "fluffing" where cuckolding is concerned? My wife has told me she thinks "fluffing" is the ultimate humiliation for a husband. Having me suck another mans cock in preparation for fucking her sends her over the edge! I enjoy the humiliation of it, and quite frankly I like having a nice big cock to suck while she watches, but I think that swallowing another man's cum is FAR more humiliating. For me, the most humiliating act is when she tells her new lovers that she is going to fuck them right in front of her husband and that he will even suck there cock for them to get it up if they will allow. THAT brings me to my knees, which, after all, is where I am happiest in our relationship.

 

[Richard and Maria Pike]

In answer to Custer:

Your husband sounds like a good example of a "voluntary" cuckold, with your "icing on the cake" cuckolding of him adding what I referred to (above) as a sort of emotional/erotic skydiving spice to your marriage.

I guess there are many different styles of cuckoldry, as this long thread shows. Custer, you are right that the relationship my hubby and I have is more like emotional/erotic skydiving.

But there are a couple differences. Richard is definitely "voluntary." Even in high school, he always tried to dated the biggest campus slut, it's just what he likes. He told me that all thru college, the guys would say, "Date the bad ones but marry a good one." He never did well with good girls, and I know he doesn't mind saying he was almost impotent with them. He always knew he wanted to marry a slut.

Thus totally voluntary. But it is only a kind of emotional skydiving if there is risk involved. If I just had a slutty roll in the haystack for purely physical reasons, there is not much risk. If I have a powerful emotional/intellectual connection with a lover, then it is much more risky, yes?

Other kinds of risks..... I got caught because a lover shot his mouth off at work, and now everyone thinks of me as the office bimbo. It really did make me cry. Richard was very kind, said that he didn't want me to have any pain, if it was hurting me that much, I could abandon the slut lifestyle even though we both love it.

My new idea is to take night classes at the junior college. I am 40 and there is only one thing a 20-year-old wants from a woman my age. We can still have emotional or energetic connection, I have had that with younger guys, but there is never an issue about creating a "real" relationship, is there?

So does that minimize the skydiving or does it simply make it safer?

I don't know.

What class do you think I will take at junior college? Psychology, of course!

 

[Cuckold64]

Nothing like skydiving! For me the humiliation matches the rush of seeing, hearing, or hearing about her orgasms with other men! It seems that now I am over 40, I am more willing to be "discovered" for what I am than ever before... but so far that hasn't happened.

 

[Custer Laststand]

Hi Ms. Maria,

In answer to Custer: I guess there are many different styles of cuckoldry, as this long thread shows. Custer, you are right that the relationship my hubby and I have is more like emotional/erotic skydiving.

Cool. That actually seems like one of the most legitimate (if that's the right word for this "illegitimate" activity) motivations for voluntary cuckolding, and one of the most easily-understandable motivations as well.

But there are a couple differences. Richard is definitely "voluntary." Even in high school, he always tried to dated the biggest campus slut, it's just what he likes. He told me that all thru college, the guys would say, "Date the bad ones but marry a good one." He never did well with good girls, and I know he doesn't mind saying he was almost impotent with them. He always knew he wanted to marry a slut.

Interesting. I first heard the expression, "There are women you go out with and women you marry" in 1987. I was so struck by it that I've remembered it, and who said it, to this day. (The man who mentioned that went on to say, with some resignation [I thought], that "Unfortunately, my daughter is the kind of woman men go out with.")

Regardless, I'd say your husband's decision to go with what he wanted and needed (and still does, obviously), instead of what society expected of him, was a good one. He chose well... and so did you.

.... But, [voluntary cuckolding] is only a kind of emotional skydiving if there is risk involved.

Right.

If I just have a slutty roll in the haystack for purely physical reasons, there is not much risk.

From your point of view. But, risk is in the perception of the "riskee" (so to speak). There are many men who would consider their wives having "purely physical, slutty rolls in the hay" profoundly threatening to their "manhood" and unacceptable breaches of their wives acknowledgement of their "ownership" of their sexuality, and thus highly risky.

If I have a powerful emotional/intellectual connection with a lover, then it is much more risky, yes?

Yes.

Other kinds of risks..... I got caught because a lover shot his mouth off at work, and now everyone thinks of me as the office bimbo. It really did make me cry.

Not good. When you recovered your composure, I hope you made it clear to him.. at a minimum... his profound failure to engage his brain before putting his mouth in gear (as we guys sometimes say) had permanently terminated your friendship AND other benefits.

Richard was very kind, said that he didn't want me to have any pain, if it was hurting me that much, I could abandon the slut lifestyle even though we both love it.

Further evidence you made a good choice of husband...

My new idea is to take night classes at the junior college. I am 40 and there is only one thing a 20-year-old wants from a woman my age. We can still have emotional or energetic connection, I have had that with younger guys, but there is never an issue about creating a "real" relationship, is there?

I have long felt, since joining this forum, that university and community college undergraduates form a very large pool of exceptionally horny, virile, in-good-shape (well, a fair percentage of them, anyway), physically-attractive, unattached young men vastly under-utilized by married women with high sex drives and sufficient persuasive ability to seduce their husbands into agreeing to become their cuckolds. In setting out to take advantage of this resource, as one might call it, I think you are in the avant-garde.

So does that minimize the skydiving or does it simply make it safer? I don't know.

I don't think your and your husband's view of cuckolding as emotional skydiving is at risk. There is always the possibility that one of your young lovers will turn out to be less mature than he seemed, and boast openly (say, in the locker room... that's where guys are supposed to do such boasting) of his sexual "conquest" of you, thereby establishing a reputation for you as a "campus slut"... or one of them, anyway.

On the plus side, becoming known as such would presumably increase... perhaps greatly increase... your access to horny young lovers. You can revel in your reputation.

On the minus side, you might prefer a slightly greater level of discretion in order to quietly seduce your preferred lovers-in-waiting.

If the latter, you can view the risk of one of your young lovers shooting off his mouth... in hopes, no doubt, of establishing himself as a "big man on campus" (BMOC)... as adding to the sky-diving-like thrill of your undertaking. In any event, you can probably minimize this risk by threatening them with some soft, seductive, but unmistakably-hardball words to the effect that two can play the "reputation game." That is, mention to your young lovers... while gazing seductively into their eyes and perhaps holding their cocks in one hand and their balls in the other, in a "power grip"... that if they fail to remain discrete, you will destroy THEIR reputations by spreading the word among the campus women that they have inadequate-size cocks and are no good in bed (or whatever... use the male-reputation-destroying threat of your choice).

What class do you think I will take at junior college? Psychology, of course!

Of course.

I hope you will update us from time-to-time, Ms. Maria, re. your avante-gard foray into the "waiting to be tapped" pool of horny young college men. I have no doubt you will succeed, and that many erotic adventures await you.

—Custer

 

[Richard and Maria Pike]

Hi Custer, I agree with most of what you say.

In our case, the emotional skydiving aspect is based on the fact that I do have powerful feelings toward my lovers. As near as I can tell from this forum, some cuckoldry is based on the idea of the man's sexual inadequacy, so that the woman needs a "bull" to satisfy her and sometimes she even humiliates her husband about it. There are other men who simply get aroused at the thought of having a "slut wife" who is promiscuous. We are of the latter type. There is nothing wrong with Richard in bed, let me tell you! Our element of risk comes from the fact that I have some kind of "connection" with all my lovers. I am not one who chooses simply on the physical plane, and have no interests in "big studs with big cocks" or anything like that. I am sort of an intellectual critter and like a mental, or at least energetic, connection with lovers, something strong enough to make my blood boil.

Yeah, I wonder why no one thinks about the younger guys. Like I said, I cannot mix it up at work anymore, and the junior college seems like an ideal solution. Men that age just want an older woman as a fantasy creature, a "Mrs. Robinson." That's exactly what I want too. I wonder if I can create any sort of mental connection with folk so young that they prefer cyberworld to reality, but we shall see.

Another thing.... you talk about becoming known as the "campus slut." But to me this is different. At work it is just awful -- esp. the open hostility from the other women I work with, not to mention getting my butt goosed whenever I turn my back on a guy.

But the "campus slut" thing is different for a couple of reasons. The junior college I am thinking of is about 30 minutes drive from here. No one in our social circle goes there or has any connection with it. So I am in a "new world" which is not at all bound to my "ordinary world." So that means I am totally free. I was raised in a very conservative, evangelical environment, married a "decent man" right out of high school. It was not till I was divorced at age 29 that I began to suspect I was not the "good girl" I was raised to be. That is when I began to experiment. Still, I work as a legal secretary, and despite the occasional short skirt I have to maintain a very professional demeanor.

What if I were in an environment where I could be openly, blatantly slutty? Like cultivating a "jolly old wench" personality who greets guys with a kiss, tugs her skirt down while asking whether they liked the light blue panties better than the pink ones, laughs at lewd jokes and tells many of her own....

Psychologically, I know this would be "radical compensation" behavior for the repressive way I grew up, but... It is a fantasy which Richard and I often play out in the bedroom, and being the campus slut might actually be fun, since no one we know is involved with the junior college, so I am free there. And if I don't like it, well.... I am just taking courses for fun, not for a degree, I already have an MA, so just drop the class, right?

I kind of like the idea of being a "cougar on the prowl," a 40 year old woman who makes no secret of her liking for 20-something guys. Sounds like fun to me.

 

[Custer Laststand]

I think you'll find you can relate to them OK... it won't be impossible.

Hi Ms. Maria,

Hi Custer, I agree with most of what you say.

Cool... good to hear I seem to have at least most of it right.

In our case, the emotional skydiving aspect is based on the fact that I do have powerful feelings toward my lovers.

Yes, I'm sure you do. Viewing it from the male side, I find I don't (can't, really) feel sexually attracted to a woman if I don't feel attracted to her on a personal/emotional level. Feeling a connection of that nature is what I think of as "chemistry." I don't know how others... yourself, for instance... define "chemistry," but I would imagine it's in some similar way.

As near as I can tell from this forum, some cuckoldry is based on the idea of the man's sexual inadequacy, so that the woman needs a "bull" to satisfy her and sometimes she even humiliates her husband about it.

Yes... and the "sexually inadequate" cuckold (if that's the case) gets off on being humiliated by his more strongly-sexual and often, in an interpersonal sense, more dominant wife. That is, he is sexually turned on by the concept and the reality of a female-led (/femdom) marriage, in which his wife is... in essence or explicitly... the head of their household.

There are other men who simply get aroused at the thought of having a "slut wife" who is promiscuous.

There are quite a few of those on this forum...

We are of the latter type. There is nothing wrong with Richard in bed, let me tell you!

Good!

Our element of risk comes from the fact that I have some kind of "connection" with all my lovers. I am not one who chooses simply on the physical plane, and have no interests in "big studs with big cocks" or anything like that. I am sort of an intellectual critter and like a mental, or at least energetic, connection with lovers, something strong enough to make my blood boil.

I think that's the interpersonal chemistry element, as noted above.

Yeah, I wonder why no one thinks about the younger guys. Like I said, I cannot mix it up at work anymore, and the junior college seems like an ideal solution. Men that age just want an older woman as a fantasy creature, a "Mrs. Robinson."

Yes, I think "The Graduate" hit on a strongly-erotic element that I would guess is widespread among young men. I mean, I haven't done a nationwide survey or anything, but the success of the movie... which I remember well... would certainly seem to indicate that, and I felt it myself. I also remember feeling that Mrs. Robinson's young daughter, whom The Graduate (played by Dustin Hoffman) was *really* in love with (supposedly), didn't have any particular appeal relative to her older mother.

That's exactly what I want too.

Excellent! Nothing wrong with that. Wanting young men who are physically good-looking and sexually hot is entirely proper and appropriate for a sexually, mentally and emotionally mature woman such as yourself. BTW, there have been some steamy threads in this forum about married women similar to you in age (or older) fucking much younger... nubile, one might say... 18 to 20 year-old men.

I wonder if I can create any sort of mental connection with folk so young that they prefer cyberworld to reality, but we shall see.

I think you'll find you can. I suspect you'll also find that, facing the possibility then the reality of having the real thing, your young men may no longer prefer cyberfantasy.

Another thing.... you talk about becoming known as the "campus slut." But to me this is different.

I didn't mean that in any derogatory way. It would only be undesirable if you consider it undesirable (IMO). If you consider it a good thing to be viewed in that way, hey... go for it. As I mentioned, it will likely result in an expanding... perhaps rapidly expanding... circle of young lovers for you.

At work it is just awful -- esp. the open hostility from the other women I work with, not to mention getting my butt goosed whenever I turn my back on a guy.

Yes...

But the "campus slut" thing is different for a couple of reasons. The junior college I am thinking of is about 30 minutes drive from here. No one in our social circle goes there or has any connection with it. So I am in a "new world" which is not at all bound to my "ordinary world." So that means I am totally free. I was raised in a very conservative, evangelical environment, married a "decent man" right out of high school. It was not till I was divorced at age 29 that I began to suspect I was not the "good girl" I was raised to be. That is when I began to experiment. Still, I work as a legal secretary, and despite the occasional short skirt I have to maintain a very professional demeanor.

In my opinion, there's no reason to think sexuality (/sex drive) should be a function of religious upbringing, current religious beliefs, or whether one's parents are socially and/or politically "conservative." Rather, there's every reason to think (in my opinion) it's a function of human variability. See my post on this subject in this thread, above, in which I introduce 1-on-1 basketball as an analogy.

What if I were in an environment where I could be openly, blatantly slutty? Like cultivating a "jolly old wench" personality who greets guys with a kiss, tugs her skirt down while asking whether they liked the light blue panties better than the pink ones, laughs at lewd jokes and tells many of her own....

For women such as yourself, and I'm sure you aren't "sexually unique"*, it sounds like some sort of nirvana, doesn't it...? (*Remember the basic principle derived from observations of phenomena ranging from cockroaches and mosquitoes to stars in the universe: "If you see one, you can be sure you ain't seen them all.")

Psychologically, I know this would be "radical compensation" behavior for the repressive way I grew up, but... It is a fantasy which Richard and I often play out in the bedroom, and being the campus slut might actually be fun, since no one we know is involved with the junior college, so I am free there. And if I don't like it, well.... I am just taking courses for fun, not for a degree, I already have an MA, so just drop the class, right?

Right. Incidentally... as I'm sure you know... there will be a time period during which you can drop your psychology class and enroll in another without penalty. Thus, if you assess your psych classmates and decide the prospects there don't look too good (maybe most of them will appear to be psychopaths or sociopaths, for instance [joke... laugh here]), you might consider dropping that course and enrolling in another. It occurs to me a large lecture course might offer better possibilities than a small class of (say) 20 or so students.

I kind of like the idea of being a "cougar on the prowl," a 40 year old woman who makes no secret of her liking for 20-something guys. Sounds like fun to me.

So do I. In fact, I find the whole concept of "older" women being cougars very hot. If I were one of your 18 to 20 year-old lovers-in-waiting (or just observing from the sidelines, as it were), my growing awareness that you're a "cougar on the prowl" would seem real steamy. But, for me those days are long in the past.

When, Mrs. Robinson I mean Mrs. Pike, will you be starting your community college adventure? Have you enrolled for summer session, or do you intend to begin with fall semester '11?

—Custer

 

[slaved]

not to mention getting my butt goosed whenever I turn my back on a guy..

So that happens a lot? This seems so alien to me. I mean, I know it happens but damn. At bars sure. But at work? I'd never have the big brass balls to do something like that...even if I know for a fact that the woman in question is a total slut. (I'm not saying you are a slut, mind you. My definition of "slut" goes much further than the way you've described yourself) Just because a woman is a slut it doesn't necessarily follow that she wants to fuck me in particular. Honestly, I wouldn't do it even if I knew the woman wanted me too. I'd be terrified of being seen doing it and finding myself in HR.
Does this happen to women at work all the time and am I just totally *******?

Sorry, don't mean to hijack the thread but I'm really curious about that. I'm starting to suspect that a lot things are going on around me that I have no fucking clue about.

Oh and Doc...I've thought a lot about the psychology behind cuckolding, especially the interracial aspect of it. Do you think that it might be a manifestation of a guilt complex? Not just for white men wanting to see their wives owned by a black man (and in many cases made to sexually service him themselves) but for more well off men in general...perhaps subconsciously feeling guilty about financial success. And on that note, what about black men that want to see white men fuck their wives? From your posts it appears you haven't seen this in your office but do you (or anyone else) care to take a stab at what the psychology is behind that?

 

[kaitak666]

Hi Doc in Cleveland,
I'd love to let you explore my mind in practice, by using the systems I normally use to express my cuckold tendencies. For example I use a lot the free teamviewer software to let others connect to my desktop. I always wanted to know a doctor and let myself completely open to him. I am 37yo male engaged to a 37yo girlfriend.
Thanks for answering

 

[ChiDog]

Just read this thread, or Doc's first post to be more accurate -- 'cause really I gotta get to work....

Wow, very interesting, Doc, and I am not surprised by your findings and the explosion of this lifestyle, and the fact that people are not willing to talk about it openly... Also very interesting the nationality/race/IQ/and other demographic factors you've seen.

I just finished posting in the "how did this start" thread, or whatever that was called, then read your first post, and, as can be seen in what I just posted in that other thread, I clearly fall into the "voyeur" category. Thanks for telling me there's nothing wrong with that, not that I ever really thought there was!

Please do regain access, and I'll follow this thread more regularly!

 

[Richard and Maria Pike]

slaved writes:

Originally Posted by Richard and Maria Pike
not to mention getting my butt goosed whenever I turn my back on a guy..
So that happens a lot? This seems so alien to me. I mean, I know it happens but damn. At bars sure. But at work? I'd never have the big brass balls to do something like that...

I work at a law firm. Have you ever imagined what it would be like for a "mere" legal secretary to accuse a lawyer of sexual harassment. They would talk circles around you until it appeared as if you were at fault. That's their job, right?

As for my boss, the senior partner, making comments about being able to see my panties. That was not offensive to me. I should mention that he is a feeble 67, while I am a fit 40, so no physical fear on my part. The reason he didn't retire is because he lost his beloved wife several years ago, and the loneliness of retirement would have been agony for him. I know he's a voyeur, and I know that peeking up my skirt is probably the only form of sexual activity he has had since his wife died. As far as I am concerned, letting him look is an act of "tender mercy."

Now Custer says:

In my opinion, there's no reason to think sexuality (/sex drive) should be a function of religious upbringing, current religious beliefs, or whether one's parents are socially and/or politically "conservative." Rather, there's every reason to think (in my opinion) it's a function of human variability.

I did not mean to imply that I am slutty BECAUSE of my conservative religious upbringing. I agree that one's sexual drive and preference is a matter of innate personality, a kind of essence. Instead, I meant to say that it took me years to REALIZE I was actually a slut, because the repressive environment made it virtually impossible to even entertain notions about my real self. My parents thought rock'n'roll was the measure of a degenerate society. I remember once, as a teenager, I had to beg and beg them to let me go to a rock concert. I got to go, but.... When all the girls started jumping around and screaming, I wanted to do part of it, jump and yell, lose control. To make a long story short, I lost control all right -- actually wet my pants. Needless to say, I was not allowed to go to any more concerts.

It was only when I was about 30, many miles from my upbringing, that I began to ponder as to whether my real sexual orientation was that of a "slut." My husband -- one of the many you cited who becomes aroused by having a promiscuous partner -- has been hugely supportive. But with my job and with all the social controls, I still act the good girl in public.

Sometimes I think about societies where women were free to be openly sexual. Clearly, pre-Christian Europe was pretty free, and pre-contact Polynesia was, well.... unique. But these societies had only marginal political structure and no such thing as organized religion. As soon as political and religious institutions take over, they seem to have a vested interest in controlling our sexuality. I guess it makes us easier to control.

That's why the idea of going to an "unknown place" like the junior college is so appealing. What if I had the freedom to be "openly slutty" around men? I was only 10 when the AIDS epidemic started, Reagan gave power to the Christian Right, and militant lesbians hijacked the incipient feminist movement. So I can barely remember when it was okay to be an openly sexual woman.

But I would like to try. I just want to know what it's like. When I first got divorced, I lived in the same apartment building with a nurse from the local hospital who was the stereotype "slut nurse," and admitted to being openly promiscuous.

I should not use the word "admitted." It implies guilt. I should say that she "affirmed herself" or "asserted herself" as openly promiscuous. She seemed like the freest person I had ever met. I just would like to give it a try in a safe venue. If I don't like it, I can drop out of the class.

Sorry for ranting. This forum is for cuckolds. My husband has been busy but will post later. Meanwhile, I hope you don't mind hearing from the Slut side of the fence.

 

[Custer Laststand]

Hey, no need to apologize... your contributions are excellent.

Hi Ms. Maria,

Thank you for your continuing replies and comments, which I find intellectual and most interesting.

In response to:

Sometimes I think about societies where women were free to be openly sexual. Clearly, pre-Christian Europe was pretty free, and pre-contact Polynesia was, well.... unique. But these societies had only marginal political structure and no such thing as organized religion. As soon as political and religious institutions take over, they seem to have a vested interest in controlling our sexuality. I guess it makes us easier to control.

I'm not a historian (or archeologist), but I'm convinced you have it right. You might find this thread of interest:

http://www.cuckolds.com/forums/cuckolds-news/13669-negative-views-female-sexuality-origins-i.html

in which I specifically pointed out the patriarchal-religious origins of the suppression of female sexuality, and the role(s) of organized religions... which are still patriarchal, for the most part (consider Catholicism, Islam, and fundamentalist Christianity), in perpetuating the sexual repression of women as well as suppression of women in a broad social sense.

Regarding one of your comments to Slaved re. men in your work environment (as such environments are called) goosing your ass, etc.:

I work at a law firm. Have you ever imagined what it would be like for a "mere" legal secretary to accuse a lawyer of sexual harassment? They would talk circles around you until it appeared as if you were at fault. That's their job, right?

Good point. I must admit it hadn't occurred to me to think of attorneys in law firms as masters of circumventing the anti-sexual-harassment laws. I suspect that scene may gradually change, though. Close to 50% of new students admitted to law schools are now women (as I understand it), and my guess is, more than 50% of the graduates are, or soon will be, women. Thus, in the future perhaps law firms will be characterized by silver-tongued horny female attorneys openly looking at the crotches and goosing the asses of their mostly-male secretaries and male lawyer-colleagues, who may gradually slip into the minority at most law firms.

Regarding:

Now Custer says: I did not mean to imply that I am slutty BECAUSE of my conservative religious upbringing.

No, no... of course not. I wasn't suggesting that at all. Rather, I was attempting to suggest that your being a highly-sexual woman is almost certainly unrelated to... i.e., independent of... your conservative religious upbringing.

I agree that one's sexual drive and preference is a matter of innate personality, a kind of essence. Instead, I meant to say that it took me years to REALIZE I was actually a slut, because the repressive environment made it virtually impossible to even entertain notions about my real self.

Yes, I understand.

.... I remember once, as a teenager, I had to beg and beg [my parents] to let me go to a rock concert. They relented, but.... when all the girls started jumping around and screaming, I did so as well (and lost control). .... I actually wet my pants.

Cool... that must have left you feeling quite naughty and, since you had visibly wet your pants, publicly embarrassed in a sexy sort of way. It actually sounds sort of erotic.

Needless to say, I was not allowed to go to any more concerts.

Sigh... (It sounds like your parents realized, perhaps with feelings of fear, that your budding sexuality could easily get out of control.)

I understand and agree with the remainder of your comments.

Sorry for ranting. This forum is for cuckolds. My husband has been busy but will post later. Meanwhile, I hope you don't mind hearing from the slut side of the fence.

Your posts don't seem like rants at all. They're intelligent, well-written, erotic and intriguing. I and, I'm sure, many others consider it interesting and valuable to hear from the "slut side of the fence." It greatly improves this forum when women like yourself post about their thoughts and feelings that motivate them to cuckold their husbands, and their adventures dating and fucking (including, sometimes, bringing home to fuck) other men, while their husbands remain faithful and supportive as their cuckolds. You're making a valuable contribution.

—Custer

 

[Susan's Slave]

Yes, please continue to post. We know what your husband thinks, we all think pretty much the same. I want to hear from the female side, to learn more of how you feel about all this stuff.

 

[Richard and Maria Pike]

I must admit it hadn't occurred to me to think of attorneys in law firms as masters of circumventing the anti-sexual-harassment laws. I suspect that scene may gradually change, though. Close to 50% of new students admitted to law schools are now women (as I understand it), and my guess is, more than 50% of the graduates are, or soon will be, women. Thus, in the future perhaps law firms will be characterized by silver-tongued horny female attorneys openly looking at the crotches and goosing the asses of their mostly-male secretaries and male lawyer-colleagues, who may gradually slip into the minority at most law firms.

Very funny and also quite true. We already have one female lawyer in our firm who behaves in that fashion. She's no spring chicken, probably mid-40s and something of a BBW, though that doesn't seem to prevent her from attracting male attention. She can get away with her amorous habits -- usually lavished on clients -- because she does wills, trusts, and taxes. The boundaries are different with family law or criminal law, if she got that friendly with clients in those fields, she would get the boot.

The reason I am a scandal whereas she is not is because I am married.

Anyway, here are some pics of Richard and me, just so you can see that we are very normal looking, no one suspects we have a Slut Wife/Cuckold Husband relationship.

 

[fuzwood]

Another factor to consider...

For a husband, being a cuckold is actually a sure way to win a competition. Now the world outside is a tough place, competitions are harsh, constant, and often ruthless. But in the house, in the cuckolding scenario, a guy comes to compete with the husband for the wife. The guy, a bull, seems strong and advantageous and has access to everything in the game (i.e., the wife's body). The result: After doing all he can do, the bull leaves and the wife is still the cuckold's wife. The husband is the guaranteed winner in this game. This theory can be substantiated with this question: While cuckolds enjoy their wives being fucked by others, how many cuckolds would enjoy their wives divorcing them for other men? From what we know, hardly any. Why? Because in that case, the cuckold would LOSE the competition.

 

[slaved]

With this lifestyle I can't imagine anything is guaranteed...

 

[slinky67]

With this lifestyle I can't imagine anything is guaranteed...

I have suffered a bit through this lifestyle and probably will again in the future...but i think i would say... With this life I can't imagine anything is guaranteed!