This piece ran in our local newspaper yesterday. I thought it was interesting, and decided to post it in light of a response I got in an earlier thread from a member in St Louis. She was wondering if I lived near her, apparently afraid a gun-toting, law-abiding citizen might be somewhere in the community. Well I don't carry a gun and don't live anywhere nearby, but if a certain city official has his way, she may be surrounded by people packing heat! Maybe she should move out of that safe city into the country with us rednecks, where the only thing we hunt with our AK47's is rabbit and deer.
St. Louis alderman calls on residents to get armed
ST. LOUIS (AP) - A St. Louis alderman who says he is frustrated with police response to crime in his neighborhood is calling on residents to arm themselves to protect their lives and property.
Alderman Charles Quincy Troupe said Tuesday he is telling his north St. Louis constituents to aquire guns and learn how to use them.
He said that "God-fearing, law-abiding citizens and homeowners" are being preyed upon by criminals, and that police are ineffective, outnumbered, or don't care.
Troupe, 72, and a former state representative, said many people don't realize they have a constitutional right to bear arms which they can use to fend off an intruder. He supports Missouri's "conceal and carry" weapons law and is recruiting residents to take the required weapons safety course. Troupe said the wrong people own guns.
"We bought the homes, we're paying the taxes and the police and the emergency personnel's salaries," he said. "Why in the hell can't we get relief from criminals? Why do they have all the power, and we don't and we're paying the damn bills?"
He said people are being killed on the impoverished north side, and homes are being broken into and dismantled by scavengers who steal gutters and downspouts,and that school dropouts are robbing people and stealing purses.
Troupe said when he and residents approached the district police commander last year, he said "there was nothing he could do to protect us and the community... that he didn't have the manpower, he couldn't do it."
St Louis Police Chief Dan Isom wrote Tuesday in a department blog that guns are not the solution to the city's challenging homicide problem. Citizens arming themselves will lead to more danger, not less, he said.
Neighborhood watch groups, and the hard work of helping to eradicate poverty and other social ills are better crime prevention tools, he said.
So far this year, St. Louis has had 157 homicides, 33 more than last year at this time.
"My position is simply the police are overtaxed, they are a reactionary force and we need a proactive solution to the problems of our community and our children," Troupe said.
"We haven't addressed children on the front end; now we've got problems on the back end."
University of Missouri - St. Louis criminoligist Richard Rosenfeld, who is a visiting professor this fall at the John Jay College of Criminal Justice in New York, said Troupe's idea is an understandable response to the spike in homicide in the city, but it's not likely to be effective.
More guns, he said, only compound crime problems in communities already awash with guns.
"Much of the problem is free and easy access to guns," Rosenfeld said. "This hope that by putting guns in the right hands will have an influence on criminals is a false hope. There's no evidence for that."
Mayor Francis Slay wrote in his blog Tuesday that some of the most violent crime in Troupe's First Ward are committed with guns stolen from law-abiding citizens.
he said Troupe could do more good urging constituents to cooperate with investigating police officers, lending support for activites for children, and lobbying legislators to increase funding for jobs training and economic development.
Fellow Alderman Lynda Krewson called Troupe's idea a "whacky and ineffective response."
"Most of us are not really equipped to handle the seriousness and responsibility of walking around with a gun," she said. "The end result is more guns on the street."
Krewson, whose husband was shot and killed in front of their home in the tony Central West End neighborhood in 1995, said she doesn't mean to diminish the problem of crime.
She said having a gun "would not have changed the outcome of the evening. I personally don't think guns are the answer to this."
The Rev. F. James Clark of Shalom Church in suburban Florissant, who organized an anti-crime march this summer that drew tens of thousands to the streets of St. Louis, said it doesn't make sense to "join up with what you've been fighting."
He said it sounds like Troupe "is frustrated, looking for an answer, just like the rest of us."
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St. Louis alderman calls on residents to get armed
ST. LOUIS (AP) - A St. Louis alderman who says he is frustrated with police response to crime in his neighborhood is calling on residents to arm themselves to protect their lives and property.
Alderman Charles Quincy Troupe said Tuesday he is telling his north St. Louis constituents to aquire guns and learn how to use them.
He said that "God-fearing, law-abiding citizens and homeowners" are being preyed upon by criminals, and that police are ineffective, outnumbered, or don't care.
Troupe, 72, and a former state representative, said many people don't realize they have a constitutional right to bear arms which they can use to fend off an intruder. He supports Missouri's "conceal and carry" weapons law and is recruiting residents to take the required weapons safety course. Troupe said the wrong people own guns.
"We bought the homes, we're paying the taxes and the police and the emergency personnel's salaries," he said. "Why in the hell can't we get relief from criminals? Why do they have all the power, and we don't and we're paying the damn bills?"
He said people are being killed on the impoverished north side, and homes are being broken into and dismantled by scavengers who steal gutters and downspouts,and that school dropouts are robbing people and stealing purses.
Troupe said when he and residents approached the district police commander last year, he said "there was nothing he could do to protect us and the community... that he didn't have the manpower, he couldn't do it."
St Louis Police Chief Dan Isom wrote Tuesday in a department blog that guns are not the solution to the city's challenging homicide problem. Citizens arming themselves will lead to more danger, not less, he said.
Neighborhood watch groups, and the hard work of helping to eradicate poverty and other social ills are better crime prevention tools, he said.
So far this year, St. Louis has had 157 homicides, 33 more than last year at this time.
"My position is simply the police are overtaxed, they are a reactionary force and we need a proactive solution to the problems of our community and our children," Troupe said.
"We haven't addressed children on the front end; now we've got problems on the back end."
University of Missouri - St. Louis criminoligist Richard Rosenfeld, who is a visiting professor this fall at the John Jay College of Criminal Justice in New York, said Troupe's idea is an understandable response to the spike in homicide in the city, but it's not likely to be effective.
More guns, he said, only compound crime problems in communities already awash with guns.
"Much of the problem is free and easy access to guns," Rosenfeld said. "This hope that by putting guns in the right hands will have an influence on criminals is a false hope. There's no evidence for that."
Mayor Francis Slay wrote in his blog Tuesday that some of the most violent crime in Troupe's First Ward are committed with guns stolen from law-abiding citizens.
he said Troupe could do more good urging constituents to cooperate with investigating police officers, lending support for activites for children, and lobbying legislators to increase funding for jobs training and economic development.
Fellow Alderman Lynda Krewson called Troupe's idea a "whacky and ineffective response."
"Most of us are not really equipped to handle the seriousness and responsibility of walking around with a gun," she said. "The end result is more guns on the street."
Krewson, whose husband was shot and killed in front of their home in the tony Central West End neighborhood in 1995, said she doesn't mean to diminish the problem of crime.
She said having a gun "would not have changed the outcome of the evening. I personally don't think guns are the answer to this."
The Rev. F. James Clark of Shalom Church in suburban Florissant, who organized an anti-crime march this summer that drew tens of thousands to the streets of St. Louis, said it doesn't make sense to "join up with what you've been fighting."
He said it sounds like Troupe "is frustrated, looking for an answer, just like the rest of us."
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