Okay - it was time to start a new thread so now is probably the best time to do so.
But before getting to that, I thought I'd start by saying that not much happened here tonight. Sue did see Frank this evening but came home much earlier than I'd expected as she said she wasn't feeling well and she went off to bed about 45 minutes ago. There's been an odd bug going around that's like a short-lived cold so we're hoping that's the case. Yes, she stayed long enough to have sex with him and said she wanted to as with Thanksgiving next week, Frank has his kid(s) for a change and is going to his brothers house. It was just as well as I had a critical report I needed to finish for work and that held my focus for the evening.
I suppose that anyone who's reading this wants to know what went on last night. Well, lets just say that a lot of ground was covered and yes, I'm coming to some new realizations.
Okay, no doubt that Sue has taken control of things. Even she's said it herself - "this is what you wanted, me to be like this again" and I told her yes, that I do love who she's become (or turned back into) and I told her that I felt very passionate about her. She opened up about her emotional feelings and said that all of this sex with other guys has reinforced what she knows that she loves me and most definitely, she doesn't feel that about anyone else. In her somewhat convoluted explanation she said that all of this has been good to make her realize that there is so much more to us than just good sex and that it's let her accept that she likes sex with other guys - and she openly said that it's let her accept that she wants to do things with other guys. She asked me if I was happy with what I'd pushed her towards and I asked her in turn how she felt about herself and us. She at first accused me of answering a question with another question - until I said to her that I am happy but only if it's something she (now) wants. She smiled back at me and said in a sexy voice - "yes, I can't believe I'm saying this to you but yes". I am realizing now, and I knew it then, but she was controlling that conversation and I think she wanted me to tell her that I was happy with things before she'd move on. As I said, some of the last posts here and some of the PM's I've received have pointed out what seems obvious to others, that she's clearly taken control.
Harry - I do remember how I felt when she was with Don. I believe that was earlier in their time together, before he ran the train off the tracks. But yes, I do remember those feelings - and they are very much the same as I felt when she went away with him last time too. I can't explain it but knowing she wants to be his seems to totally turn me on.
And last night, after she'd started our time together with the conversation above, as she began to coax my cock to hardness, we began to talk more openly about the pink-elephant in the room. I don't think I was responding as fast as I normally would and she asked me what was going on and I opened up to her and told her that the condoms had me worried and concerned. She turned to me and kissed me passionately and asked me what I meant. I told her that I was all up about what brought it about - and I mentioned how she doesn't like them. She hugged me and said again what she'd said to me earlier - that she felt bad that I knew she'd been with Frank "several times" (her words) and that she thought it might be difficult for me - and in her words, she said she wanted it to be good for me too and thought it might help. Of course she said sarcastically "of course if you'd rather just wait....". I told her that I was concerned that it was going to be something she'd want me to do more of and I mentioned how a 12-pack of condoms is going to probably last more than two weeks. She giggled and said that it must be my fantasy in my head as she hadn't been thinking of that.
The conversation continued as she replaced her hand with mine on my cock and she told me how erotic and sexy she felt thinking about giving herself totally to her lover before they go away together. I didn't feel it emotionally threatening at all, but I could definitely feel this smoldering desire in her. It was crazy to hear her tell me how it turned her on to only have sex with him so many times before they went away together. It was the way she said "so many times" that really got to me and yes, got my cock really hard. She said she felt really in-tune with him by the time they'd gone away and that she wanted to feel that kind of arousal again. I told her it turned me on to hear her say that and that I was surprised she was going to let me have her even with a condom on. I think, no, I'm sure I knew what her answer was going to be and sure enough she said "I think it's that it was just him cumming in me" and she held my hand tightly. She continued to tell me how she'd masturbated a lot (for her) last time and that was when she admitted that it really turned her on to think about what she was doing - but she said she'd cum many times with her toys and it didn't affect how she felt with him when they went away - so she concluded that she just doesn't want me to cum in her. She even joked that if she could trust me to pull out, that she'd offer me that but she knows me better than that.
She moved in for a hug after we'd kind of gotten past that part of the conversation and I hugged her back. As we hugged she asked me if I hated her or what she was doing. Maybe she played the guilt card in a way from how she responded but I know as I felt her hug that when I hugged her back, deeply, and she felt it, that I could physically feel her body relax. I kisssed her and told her I could never hate her and that hearing her being truthful with me did make it a bit easier to think about.
My cock was hard this whole time and as we separated from our hug and she saw it, she smiled. She teased me that I'd "better enjoy her while I still can" and she cooed in my ear how she'll feel through the condom. But when she started to tease me about whether it'll turn me on to think about Frank's cum in her and mine not - wow - it really set me off and I spurted a huge squirt all over my stomach and up onto the front of the t-shirt I'd pulled back up. I know that she knew what had set me off and I also knew as I lay there catching my breath - I knew that I just as she'd opened up, I would too. So as she started to play with the cum all over my stomach I started to tell her that I did think it'd be pretty intense and exciting to play like that - and I mentioned that "when we do get together again when you get back it's going to be awesome". She giggled and cooed in my ear as she gave my cock a final stroke and said "mmmm - I'll bet you'll have something waiting for me". I replied back about having her back to me afterwards and she said that she all but promised I'd have her that night when she gets back and she added "without a condom".
As I licked off her fingers each time she'd bring them to my mouth I asked her if she was hoping Frank was going to be someone different this time and I reminded her of some of what she'd said afterwards last time and I joked that "I don't think you can change him". She said as if it was nothing at all that she's not looking to change who he is and then added that she was still serious about finding "someone new" next year.
Maybe I shouldn't have said it but I did - I said to her that I thought she was looking for someone a bit more controlling and demanding (I didn't use the word dominant over her). She smiled and said that "it'd be nice seeing a guy who wants me more than once a week" and she then mentioned something about "when she first started seeing Don" and then added "when it was good.... when it was fun....". As I said, it felt like the conversation just flowed - the words just appeared and I said to her "you remember what he'd wanted" and then said "what if your new guy is like that". She turned to me and said "lets cross that bridge when and if we come to it". I know I should have let it drop but at that moment all sorts of thoughts were in my head. And, to be honest, I don't know how long we lay there talking when all of this came out - all of this could have taken 5 or 10 minutes or it could have taken 30 to 40 minutes - I honestly don't know. Here I was lying there having just cum while talking about her and her lover being exclusive before they go away and I guess the openness of the moment got to me and I said "is it something you've thought about?". She was quiet for a moment but continued to scrape together the last drops of cum on my stomach and she said something like "I'm not surprised that he didn't like having all of this stuff in me" as she brought the last finger-full to my mouth.
But before getting to that, I thought I'd start by saying that not much happened here tonight. Sue did see Frank this evening but came home much earlier than I'd expected as she said she wasn't feeling well and she went off to bed about 45 minutes ago. There's been an odd bug going around that's like a short-lived cold so we're hoping that's the case. Yes, she stayed long enough to have sex with him and said she wanted to as with Thanksgiving next week, Frank has his kid(s) for a change and is going to his brothers house. It was just as well as I had a critical report I needed to finish for work and that held my focus for the evening.
I suppose that anyone who's reading this wants to know what went on last night. Well, lets just say that a lot of ground was covered and yes, I'm coming to some new realizations.
Okay, no doubt that Sue has taken control of things. Even she's said it herself - "this is what you wanted, me to be like this again" and I told her yes, that I do love who she's become (or turned back into) and I told her that I felt very passionate about her. She opened up about her emotional feelings and said that all of this sex with other guys has reinforced what she knows that she loves me and most definitely, she doesn't feel that about anyone else. In her somewhat convoluted explanation she said that all of this has been good to make her realize that there is so much more to us than just good sex and that it's let her accept that she likes sex with other guys - and she openly said that it's let her accept that she wants to do things with other guys. She asked me if I was happy with what I'd pushed her towards and I asked her in turn how she felt about herself and us. She at first accused me of answering a question with another question - until I said to her that I am happy but only if it's something she (now) wants. She smiled back at me and said in a sexy voice - "yes, I can't believe I'm saying this to you but yes". I am realizing now, and I knew it then, but she was controlling that conversation and I think she wanted me to tell her that I was happy with things before she'd move on. As I said, some of the last posts here and some of the PM's I've received have pointed out what seems obvious to others, that she's clearly taken control.
Harry - I do remember how I felt when she was with Don. I believe that was earlier in their time together, before he ran the train off the tracks. But yes, I do remember those feelings - and they are very much the same as I felt when she went away with him last time too. I can't explain it but knowing she wants to be his seems to totally turn me on.
And last night, after she'd started our time together with the conversation above, as she began to coax my cock to hardness, we began to talk more openly about the pink-elephant in the room. I don't think I was responding as fast as I normally would and she asked me what was going on and I opened up to her and told her that the condoms had me worried and concerned. She turned to me and kissed me passionately and asked me what I meant. I told her that I was all up about what brought it about - and I mentioned how she doesn't like them. She hugged me and said again what she'd said to me earlier - that she felt bad that I knew she'd been with Frank "several times" (her words) and that she thought it might be difficult for me - and in her words, she said she wanted it to be good for me too and thought it might help. Of course she said sarcastically "of course if you'd rather just wait....". I told her that I was concerned that it was going to be something she'd want me to do more of and I mentioned how a 12-pack of condoms is going to probably last more than two weeks. She giggled and said that it must be my fantasy in my head as she hadn't been thinking of that.
The conversation continued as she replaced her hand with mine on my cock and she told me how erotic and sexy she felt thinking about giving herself totally to her lover before they go away together. I didn't feel it emotionally threatening at all, but I could definitely feel this smoldering desire in her. It was crazy to hear her tell me how it turned her on to only have sex with him so many times before they went away together. It was the way she said "so many times" that really got to me and yes, got my cock really hard. She said she felt really in-tune with him by the time they'd gone away and that she wanted to feel that kind of arousal again. I told her it turned me on to hear her say that and that I was surprised she was going to let me have her even with a condom on. I think, no, I'm sure I knew what her answer was going to be and sure enough she said "I think it's that it was just him cumming in me" and she held my hand tightly. She continued to tell me how she'd masturbated a lot (for her) last time and that was when she admitted that it really turned her on to think about what she was doing - but she said she'd cum many times with her toys and it didn't affect how she felt with him when they went away - so she concluded that she just doesn't want me to cum in her. She even joked that if she could trust me to pull out, that she'd offer me that but she knows me better than that.
She moved in for a hug after we'd kind of gotten past that part of the conversation and I hugged her back. As we hugged she asked me if I hated her or what she was doing. Maybe she played the guilt card in a way from how she responded but I know as I felt her hug that when I hugged her back, deeply, and she felt it, that I could physically feel her body relax. I kisssed her and told her I could never hate her and that hearing her being truthful with me did make it a bit easier to think about.
My cock was hard this whole time and as we separated from our hug and she saw it, she smiled. She teased me that I'd "better enjoy her while I still can" and she cooed in my ear how she'll feel through the condom. But when she started to tease me about whether it'll turn me on to think about Frank's cum in her and mine not - wow - it really set me off and I spurted a huge squirt all over my stomach and up onto the front of the t-shirt I'd pulled back up. I know that she knew what had set me off and I also knew as I lay there catching my breath - I knew that I just as she'd opened up, I would too. So as she started to play with the cum all over my stomach I started to tell her that I did think it'd be pretty intense and exciting to play like that - and I mentioned that "when we do get together again when you get back it's going to be awesome". She giggled and cooed in my ear as she gave my cock a final stroke and said "mmmm - I'll bet you'll have something waiting for me". I replied back about having her back to me afterwards and she said that she all but promised I'd have her that night when she gets back and she added "without a condom".
As I licked off her fingers each time she'd bring them to my mouth I asked her if she was hoping Frank was going to be someone different this time and I reminded her of some of what she'd said afterwards last time and I joked that "I don't think you can change him". She said as if it was nothing at all that she's not looking to change who he is and then added that she was still serious about finding "someone new" next year.
Maybe I shouldn't have said it but I did - I said to her that I thought she was looking for someone a bit more controlling and demanding (I didn't use the word dominant over her). She smiled and said that "it'd be nice seeing a guy who wants me more than once a week" and she then mentioned something about "when she first started seeing Don" and then added "when it was good.... when it was fun....". As I said, it felt like the conversation just flowed - the words just appeared and I said to her "you remember what he'd wanted" and then said "what if your new guy is like that". She turned to me and said "lets cross that bridge when and if we come to it". I know I should have let it drop but at that moment all sorts of thoughts were in my head. And, to be honest, I don't know how long we lay there talking when all of this came out - all of this could have taken 5 or 10 minutes or it could have taken 30 to 40 minutes - I honestly don't know. Here I was lying there having just cum while talking about her and her lover being exclusive before they go away and I guess the openness of the moment got to me and I said "is it something you've thought about?". She was quiet for a moment but continued to scrape together the last drops of cum on my stomach and she said something like "I'm not surprised that he didn't like having all of this stuff in me" as she brought the last finger-full to my mouth.
