Denial 2015
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Knk - yes, Sue stayed home tonight (told me Paul was "annoyed") as I was finally feeling better when she woke me up when she got home from work. I was out until then. I thought it was something that would pass but instead, got worse. Mild temp, achey. Mild/late-flu? Who knows.
Even after sleeping most of the day today I'm still out of it so this will be quick.
Going back to Saturday, yes, he came by actually not until after dinner (which was better for me) and I was, I guess, already coming down with something as I just felt out of sorts. I liked being there with them but really, I wasn't into being there while they were getting into it. I guess that should have been a sign but instead, when they started getting chummy on the couch, I left them and went and kept busy nearby but not on top of them. Of course I did peek in on them and I did stare/watch from a distance.
I like it when I can see them when the don't think I'm there, yes, I like to see whether they're more or less reserved around me - and yes, to see if she's into it. She was and I loved seeing her really get into kissing him as he got on top of her. I wonder if it will ever not turn me on that (yet) another guy is as familiar with her body as I am. He had her panties off before she pushed him away and ran up to our bedroom.
I waited till I heard familiar noises before I went up and looked through the bedroom door that was conveniently left open just a few inches. And yes, I watched him fuck her. I think someone asked how I thought it could be beautiful to see, but to me it is. Seeing her eagerly take his cock into her - seeing her wanting him and seeing him really fuck her was really hot. But I only watched from a distance. I knew he wasn't spending the night and sure enough, he left after he'd made her scream so even our neighbors could likely hear her, I surely could. I left them alone after they went motionless and the next things I heard was noises in the bathroom and then him coming out dressed and her in her bathrobe. Neither saw me in the other room but neither looked either. She kissed him at the door before coming back up. She smiled at me and let me watch her take off her robe and let me see she was naked beneath. I swore I could see her nipples were reddened and her pussy was swollen but then maybe not. I remember it was late already and she pulled her night shirt on and we spooned up and snuggled in bed.
That was the last thing I remembered from Saturday night even though she told me we talked in bed for a while. When I woke up Sunday morning I felt like crap already.
Even after sleeping most of the day today I'm still out of it so this will be quick.
Going back to Saturday, yes, he came by actually not until after dinner (which was better for me) and I was, I guess, already coming down with something as I just felt out of sorts. I liked being there with them but really, I wasn't into being there while they were getting into it. I guess that should have been a sign but instead, when they started getting chummy on the couch, I left them and went and kept busy nearby but not on top of them. Of course I did peek in on them and I did stare/watch from a distance.
I like it when I can see them when the don't think I'm there, yes, I like to see whether they're more or less reserved around me - and yes, to see if she's into it. She was and I loved seeing her really get into kissing him as he got on top of her. I wonder if it will ever not turn me on that (yet) another guy is as familiar with her body as I am. He had her panties off before she pushed him away and ran up to our bedroom.
I waited till I heard familiar noises before I went up and looked through the bedroom door that was conveniently left open just a few inches. And yes, I watched him fuck her. I think someone asked how I thought it could be beautiful to see, but to me it is. Seeing her eagerly take his cock into her - seeing her wanting him and seeing him really fuck her was really hot. But I only watched from a distance. I knew he wasn't spending the night and sure enough, he left after he'd made her scream so even our neighbors could likely hear her, I surely could. I left them alone after they went motionless and the next things I heard was noises in the bathroom and then him coming out dressed and her in her bathrobe. Neither saw me in the other room but neither looked either. She kissed him at the door before coming back up. She smiled at me and let me watch her take off her robe and let me see she was naked beneath. I swore I could see her nipples were reddened and her pussy was swollen but then maybe not. I remember it was late already and she pulled her night shirt on and we spooned up and snuggled in bed.
That was the last thing I remembered from Saturday night even though she told me we talked in bed for a while. When I woke up Sunday morning I felt like crap already.
I trust you are feeling a little better today Steve. Some of the flu type bugs in the UK this winter have been lingering for weeks before clearing up. Paul seems to be evolving badly. He has a great weekend last week by anyone's standard. Then he doesn't stay on Saturday night. Then he's annoyed because you are ill yesterday. Not the mark of a caring gentleman. Not at all. There has to be a reason he's single at his age. You might be uncovering it. I hope the talk is on tonight. Maybe Sue knows more than she's shared so far..
Steve,
I’m glad that you are feeling a little better and that Sue stayed home to make sure you were okay. That shows she has her priorities right – you are # 1 in her heart, even if you are (barely) #2 between her legs!
Peak hit on a point that I find troublesome about Sue and Paul’s relationship, or maybe it is just Paul and his evolving behavior. Paul seems to have a way about him that pulls Sue deeper into their relationship. I remember soon after they first got together Sue was very ambivalent about him as a lover when he went away for two weeks. Yet, by the time the time Paul got back she was all in and hot to trot for him. So I guess there was some hidden (at least to the readers) communication/seduction on his part that changed her attitude. After that she, with your encouragement, has progressively upped the ante leading to this thread.
Since this thread started, Paul’s attitude toward you has shifted from concern for your marriage to what was starting to look like a total disregard for you until Sue did a reboot a few weeks ago. Things seem to have gotten better since then, including a great ski weekend. As you pointed out in post 231, you are all trying to figure out the relationships. Maybe Paul was looking at the wrong kind of cuckold porn back then and began thinking that your gift to him was your desire for him to take Sue away from you emotionally and sexually. And maybe to have that rubbed in your face. Fortunately, things seem better, but some of the dynamic is shifting.
Have you figured out what was behind Sue seeming a little distant to Paul after the ski weekend? Maybe it was just a sexual overload. As Peak pointed out, Paul not staying overnight Saturday and then being “annoyed” at Sue for staying with you yesterday shows that he might not be a caring person. Hard for us to know, but there is a relationship dynamic going on that Sue may not be sharing.
My guess is that Paul has developed an emotional attachment to Sue and he no longer has the same desire to not come between you two. He may not even be aware of his emotional attachment (men can be dense, but women always know). He may want to be in a dating relationship with her so he can show her off to his friends that are aware of her but never saw her. When you came out to him about the alpha/beta roles he did ask if he could take her on dates. Maybe he is putting on some pressure for that and Sue is holding him off (to avoid a Don situation). Or pressure for more time together. In any event, he should not be annoyed that Sue is taking care of her sick husband. Just my two cents.
I’m glad that you are feeling a little better and that Sue stayed home to make sure you were okay. That shows she has her priorities right – you are # 1 in her heart, even if you are (barely) #2 between her legs!
Peak hit on a point that I find troublesome about Sue and Paul’s relationship, or maybe it is just Paul and his evolving behavior. Paul seems to have a way about him that pulls Sue deeper into their relationship. I remember soon after they first got together Sue was very ambivalent about him as a lover when he went away for two weeks. Yet, by the time the time Paul got back she was all in and hot to trot for him. So I guess there was some hidden (at least to the readers) communication/seduction on his part that changed her attitude. After that she, with your encouragement, has progressively upped the ante leading to this thread.
Since this thread started, Paul’s attitude toward you has shifted from concern for your marriage to what was starting to look like a total disregard for you until Sue did a reboot a few weeks ago. Things seem to have gotten better since then, including a great ski weekend. As you pointed out in post 231, you are all trying to figure out the relationships. Maybe Paul was looking at the wrong kind of cuckold porn back then and began thinking that your gift to him was your desire for him to take Sue away from you emotionally and sexually. And maybe to have that rubbed in your face. Fortunately, things seem better, but some of the dynamic is shifting.
Have you figured out what was behind Sue seeming a little distant to Paul after the ski weekend? Maybe it was just a sexual overload. As Peak pointed out, Paul not staying overnight Saturday and then being “annoyed” at Sue for staying with you yesterday shows that he might not be a caring person. Hard for us to know, but there is a relationship dynamic going on that Sue may not be sharing.
My guess is that Paul has developed an emotional attachment to Sue and he no longer has the same desire to not come between you two. He may not even be aware of his emotional attachment (men can be dense, but women always know). He may want to be in a dating relationship with her so he can show her off to his friends that are aware of her but never saw her. When you came out to him about the alpha/beta roles he did ask if he could take her on dates. Maybe he is putting on some pressure for that and Sue is holding him off (to avoid a Don situation). Or pressure for more time together. In any event, he should not be annoyed that Sue is taking care of her sick husband. Just my two cents.
So, with my finally feeling better last night, Sue again had a little surprise for me - and we obviously talked a lot both before, as part of teasing me during and after I'd cum we talked even more.
The surprise was that as I was about to spew last night, that she pulled my hand away and said I "deserved this" and with that she leaned in and sucked me off until I came in her mouth - it was awesome - totally unexpected and I'd had a huge load from not cumming while I wasn't feeling well. She didn't swallow, I knew she wouldn't, and as soon as she knew I was spent she moved up and kissed me and snowballed with me for a bit. So erotic sharing my cum with her like that.
But it seems that everyone here has the curiosity about what is going on with Sue and Paul. And I admit that I was curious too. I had read Knk's and Peak's last replies and I hoped the conversation would be easy, and it was.
I can't recall exactly who asked what because we just talked for a while and it was nice to see her feeling so relaxed that she could talk comfortably. She was a little restrained at first but then opened up as she saw that I wanted to really talk instead of just her teasing me and helping me get off. She said something's that I knew and other that I suspected and other that she confirmed. She told me that she didn't love Paul and even said in a joking way that "she doesn't even always 'like him'". As we talked she was reluctant and then seemed more at ease in telling me that she loves the sex with him and that she joked that "for the first time" she feels very fulfilled sexually. I obviously pushed her on that statement and she said the didn't mean that I'd never satisfied her but that now that she feels like she's opened herself up sexually, that it feels all very new and intense to her. She was very cautious on how she told me this and admitted that it made her feel different about sex and that it was something new she was dealing with.
That was when I asked her about Paul and all of that. She held my hand and said very clearly that she doesn't love Paul and she said that at times she's not even necessarily liking him, but then she gushed about how good the sex was and how he made her feel things that she never felt before. She was very calm and close with me when she told me that he makes her cum "even better than you do" and she said she hoped that didn't hurt to hear from her but it was the truth. I told her that I didn't mind it and that it turned me on that it was true and that I was happy that she could tell me that. She held my hand and said how lucky she was to have me and that "it's just sex" to which she continued to say that all of what I'd done this past year including, most notably, my admission to wanting to be the beta for her - had "finally gotten through to me" that I "should enjoy this". She kissed me and held me tightly and told me that she felt so alive sexually and that my using condoms had really made her accept what was going on and she said that doing so made her more "feel the role" as she said it, which she explained that it was something that reminded her continuously "even if we aren't using too many of them right now" that when she feels Paul cum in her, that she knows it something she only feels with him and that it's something she feels is sweeping her along. I didn't say it but the obvious hormonal/chemical influences it is having is also what's at play too whether she knows it or not.
I asked her if "everything is okay" with him and she said that at times she wanted to feel something more for him but that it's just not there. I didn't ask for specifics but I did say "I was wondering about when we were away this last time" and she took a deep breath and opened up a bit and said that Paul didn't really feel comfortable with that whole scene - him staying with her in their room with me next door. I asked if it wasn't working, him knowing about me and that. Sue said that she wasn't sure. She said that was something they were talking about - both on the phone and also by email and that's something that was on both of their minds after we'd all come home. And she said that was why she had wanted to see him on Tuesday but then had to cancel. What she did say was that he said he didn't like feeling like he was a performing-act for me and that it was "weird enough" that I know and like what's going on. I didn't really push it as she wasn't comfortable yet with what was going on but in my head I'm guessing maybe me being right there and watching so up-close might be something he's not comfortable with. Or maybe he doesn't like her holding my hand sometimes. Either way, she didn't say anything more and it wasn't something I wanted to push.
She did giggle and tell me that "he loves the sex though" and that she admits she's quite sure that's what's kept him okay through what's gone on. And she gushed at how he loves to wait till he sees her and that she giggled and said "unlike you, he hardly ever does this" as she motioned with her hand simulating my stroking my cock. Again I didn't ask or push but she seemed to also be implying that he doesn't "do this" because he is fucking her whereas I am not, or not as much.
More after lunch.
The surprise was that as I was about to spew last night, that she pulled my hand away and said I "deserved this" and with that she leaned in and sucked me off until I came in her mouth - it was awesome - totally unexpected and I'd had a huge load from not cumming while I wasn't feeling well. She didn't swallow, I knew she wouldn't, and as soon as she knew I was spent she moved up and kissed me and snowballed with me for a bit. So erotic sharing my cum with her like that.
But it seems that everyone here has the curiosity about what is going on with Sue and Paul. And I admit that I was curious too. I had read Knk's and Peak's last replies and I hoped the conversation would be easy, and it was.
I can't recall exactly who asked what because we just talked for a while and it was nice to see her feeling so relaxed that she could talk comfortably. She was a little restrained at first but then opened up as she saw that I wanted to really talk instead of just her teasing me and helping me get off. She said something's that I knew and other that I suspected and other that she confirmed. She told me that she didn't love Paul and even said in a joking way that "she doesn't even always 'like him'". As we talked she was reluctant and then seemed more at ease in telling me that she loves the sex with him and that she joked that "for the first time" she feels very fulfilled sexually. I obviously pushed her on that statement and she said the didn't mean that I'd never satisfied her but that now that she feels like she's opened herself up sexually, that it feels all very new and intense to her. She was very cautious on how she told me this and admitted that it made her feel different about sex and that it was something new she was dealing with.
That was when I asked her about Paul and all of that. She held my hand and said very clearly that she doesn't love Paul and she said that at times she's not even necessarily liking him, but then she gushed about how good the sex was and how he made her feel things that she never felt before. She was very calm and close with me when she told me that he makes her cum "even better than you do" and she said she hoped that didn't hurt to hear from her but it was the truth. I told her that I didn't mind it and that it turned me on that it was true and that I was happy that she could tell me that. She held my hand and said how lucky she was to have me and that "it's just sex" to which she continued to say that all of what I'd done this past year including, most notably, my admission to wanting to be the beta for her - had "finally gotten through to me" that I "should enjoy this". She kissed me and held me tightly and told me that she felt so alive sexually and that my using condoms had really made her accept what was going on and she said that doing so made her more "feel the role" as she said it, which she explained that it was something that reminded her continuously "even if we aren't using too many of them right now" that when she feels Paul cum in her, that she knows it something she only feels with him and that it's something she feels is sweeping her along. I didn't say it but the obvious hormonal/chemical influences it is having is also what's at play too whether she knows it or not.
I asked her if "everything is okay" with him and she said that at times she wanted to feel something more for him but that it's just not there. I didn't ask for specifics but I did say "I was wondering about when we were away this last time" and she took a deep breath and opened up a bit and said that Paul didn't really feel comfortable with that whole scene - him staying with her in their room with me next door. I asked if it wasn't working, him knowing about me and that. Sue said that she wasn't sure. She said that was something they were talking about - both on the phone and also by email and that's something that was on both of their minds after we'd all come home. And she said that was why she had wanted to see him on Tuesday but then had to cancel. What she did say was that he said he didn't like feeling like he was a performing-act for me and that it was "weird enough" that I know and like what's going on. I didn't really push it as she wasn't comfortable yet with what was going on but in my head I'm guessing maybe me being right there and watching so up-close might be something he's not comfortable with. Or maybe he doesn't like her holding my hand sometimes. Either way, she didn't say anything more and it wasn't something I wanted to push.
She did giggle and tell me that "he loves the sex though" and that she admits she's quite sure that's what's kept him okay through what's gone on. And she gushed at how he loves to wait till he sees her and that she giggled and said "unlike you, he hardly ever does this" as she motioned with her hand simulating my stroking my cock. Again I didn't ask or push but she seemed to also be implying that he doesn't "do this" because he is fucking her whereas I am not, or not as much.
More after lunch.
Steve, as you recounted the latest week-end at the ski lodge, I know I had several thoughts running through my head that your latest post seems to give merit to. I know as you were recounting the activities, I was wondering at a few points why have the spare bedroom when it seemed you were on top of them, smothering them all week-end. At every turn, there you were. It just seemed you were a bit more needy and less secure with things. I mean, did you really spew your load all over the bed they were going to be sleeping in? Not cool. Did you not think it was a little overbearing on your part to join them in the bathroom as they were trying to clean up? I can easily see how Paul, and maybe Sue too, would have appreciated a little more breathing room. I know you tried to give them some privacy by leaving them alone for their second coupling of one evening and again the next morning, but maybe undid that attempt at privacy at other points in the week-end.
I can only tell you how I would have felt. While reading your account of it, I was feeling like you were very much smothering them at times. I can see why Paul and Sue are having conversations about it now. Maybe you should offer to back off a little when they are together. Is seems maybe this is causing a disruption to them. Maybe for the next couple of times Sue should just go to Paul's alone, or even better, you could offer to drop her off at his place for an overnight and then leave. Maybe it will give them a chance to get back in the groove that all three of you have been enjoying.
Just chalk up the ski week-end as an experiment that didn't work. Sure there were good things and not so good things that happened, but also it is something that does not sound like will be repeated with Paul. I think the bigger question now is that things may play out to where you may not get to watch them as often. How would you feel about that, Steve? Would you be okay with them being alone becomes the rule and you getting to watch becomes a special event? I wonder if that might cause enough of a positive change in Paul for Sue?
I can only tell you how I would have felt. While reading your account of it, I was feeling like you were very much smothering them at times. I can see why Paul and Sue are having conversations about it now. Maybe you should offer to back off a little when they are together. Is seems maybe this is causing a disruption to them. Maybe for the next couple of times Sue should just go to Paul's alone, or even better, you could offer to drop her off at his place for an overnight and then leave. Maybe it will give them a chance to get back in the groove that all three of you have been enjoying.
Just chalk up the ski week-end as an experiment that didn't work. Sure there were good things and not so good things that happened, but also it is something that does not sound like will be repeated with Paul. I think the bigger question now is that things may play out to where you may not get to watch them as often. How would you feel about that, Steve? Would you be okay with them being alone becomes the rule and you getting to watch becomes a special event? I wonder if that might cause enough of a positive change in Paul for Sue?
Jaxunman said:
Steve, Yes. I, too thought that was very inappropriate, and thought you had somehow forgotten protocol. I know, Paul's 'cum' must have been all over the place and they probably pulled the sheet before going to sleep, but still it came across to me as way too 'brazen' on your part especially as a Beta.
Jaxunman said:
I agree, and it even may be time for you to welcome Paul into your home, let him know that you will be 'out' for the evening and will not be back until, "Oh let's say, 1AM." At which time you will stay in the basement bedroom, (your son used to use,) the rest of the night. Assuring Sue & Paul, that they have the rest of the house privately to themselves, until they are up making breakfast. Here again a Beta should be cautious about invading their space.
Cheers, Harry
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