So - seems like it's time to start a new thread - so here goes..
How do you ask another guy to have sex with your wife? The answer is "very awkwardly". I will say it's definitely a first in my book.
Between my/our anxiety over it all and her seeing him on Thursday and then asking me to wait till Friday - AFTER our get together with Frank - I was all over the place as I'd last posted. I would even say that the anxiety I felt about Friday kind of overshadowed my horniness in a way.
Anyway - a week later, let me recap what happened and where we are.
So, as I said, it was awkward. I was definitely horny and she'd been teasing me before we went over. We were actually quiet on the way over his place. We brought him the tool organizer, a bottle of champagne and Sue had picked up this really neat house-plant - so we were bearing gifts and I knew that would ease us into conversation.
We got there about 8:30pm and every time I'm there I get horny thinking about whether they've fucked in this chair or on that couch. Sue whispered to me that he'd cleaned up a bit as the night before, there was all sorts of guy-stuff all over (she's joked with me that we're much alike in that way - none of us are exactly Felix Unger).
Frank had some wine (I didn't ask how he knew what kind Sue liked - didn't want to do anything to derail the train) and beer as well as some appetizer kinds of snacks. There was a little tension in the air and at one point when Sue went to use the bathroom, Frank asked me what was going to happen. I told him that I would bring "it" up when I thought the time was right, he assured me he'd play right along with whatever happened.. At another point when I was out of the room I snuck back and peeked in and saw the 2 of them talking together so I suspected they were doing the same as he and I had done, prepared themselves.
But as I've said all along - it's very easy with the 3 of us together - so the conversations and the alcohol flowed effortlessly. At one point Frank asked us if we wanted to smoke some pot - which naturally led to a discussion of where he'd gotten it (one of his clients had offered it to him) and the whole thing about whether it should be legal for adults or not. It was a good conversation as it let us open up a bit about something unconventional. We went out on his deck where we smoked some of it. Turned out it was pretty good and it definitely relaxed our conversation afterwards. We bantered about all sorts of things including me joking with Frank about seeing a Penthouse magazine in the magazine rack - which left us all laughing when he said he "liked the articles" in it. But it was a great conversation starter. After we all got another round of drinks I found the courage to open up the real subject/reason for our getting together. In our enlightened mood, the banter went to how much his right hand enjoyed the magazine. Sue didn't understand the reference right away but soon got it and turned red and giggled which made us all laugh out loud. The talk went to how Frank was doing dating-wise and when he said he was in a slump, and it sounds crazy but I just came out and said that "maybe Sue could help you out?".
There was silence for a second and then I said to Sue that it was something we'd talked about and I looked at Frank, who was white-faced at what I'd just said, and I said something that I thought it would be exciting and said to Frank that we'd been talking about doing something like this - "spicing things up" and then I said "unless you're not interested, that is?" and then I looked at Sue and said something like "I guess I should make sure you're okay?". She smiled and played the part up in saying that she wasn't totally sure but thought Frank was a nice guy and then played up a concern over making a fantasy become a reality.
None of what happened was what any of us expected. Frank asked what the fantasy was about and Sue owned up to thinking about him when we'd had sex. She just made it up as we went along but it was Frank who I look back at and have to laugh at. He was listening to everything and looking at me, I guess, as if to ask me if this is something I coached her into saying. But it honestly seemed just totally spontaneous. Like a deer in the headlights he seemed frozen listening to her. I don't think he knew what to say or how to answer until I said to him that I thought he was a great guy and I said that if I was going to have to pick a guy for her to have fun with, that I'd be comfortable with him.
And that was it. It was out in the open. He asked how it would work and once he did so and I think Sue and I felt we were all in sync, it seemed almost easy to discuss. The conversations I'd had with Frank made it easier for me to feel comfortable talking to him. Sue played her part perfectly - but again, how the conversation just seemed to happen made it all seem totally innocent and spontaneous - not what either of us had discussed with each other or with Frank.
We'd been talking almost non-stop and by then, it was kind of late already in that it was almost 11pm - over 2 hours had gone by effortlessly and now, we'd hit a high-point. I know Sue and I were sensitive to this from some of our earliest experiences - that it's better to end on a high-note than to push an evening further along. Through our discussion we'd shared - either Sue or I or both of us - that she'd wanted to fulfill her fantasy before she got too old - that I thought the idea of a hot-wife was arousing and we both shared some of the role-playing fun we'd had and how we wanted to go to the next step. I also shared that I thought I'd be okay with Sue playing without me but that I hoped that it could also be the 3 of us at times and I told Frank that was also one of Sue's longtime-fantasies, 2 guys at once.
I know it sounds like we were all crazy or something for how open and easy the conversation flowed, but as I've said, he IS an easy guy to talk to, something about him is just so disarming. Anyway, I digress. At some point we all raised our glasses and toasted to "fantasies". As I said, Sue and I were aware that we wanted to end the night on a good point. I made mention of the time and Sue seemed right on cue and said we should be going.
Here's where I made a careful decision. I stood up and shook Franks hand and said thanks, that it'd been a fun evening and as he and Sue both stood up I said that I hoped we'd be seeing each other again soon. Before Sue could say anything though, I said that I was going to go out and get the car started up and warmed up and I said to the two of them that "you two can say goodbye and talk for a minute" while the car warmed up. I felt like I was walking on Cloud 9 as I walked out and yelled back for Sue to get his phone numbers and Email addresses.
Sue came out about 10 minutes later and kissed me and I could smell and taste a bit that she'd just given Frank a blow-job!!!! She said he was elated and they agreed to now openly swap Emails with him to plan their/our next meeting. Needless to say, when we got home that night - it was quite intense - even to the point where our daughter said something to Sue the next day about hearing "noises" in the middle of the night.
But sorry to burst any bubbles, they/we are not getting together until next week at the earliest. Turned out that after his last round of holiday depression, that he'd made plans to go to his brother's house for New Years.
And, it was Sue who turned down seeing him this past Thursday. We both had 1/2 days at work and with both kids home, she felt it wouldn't be right to not be home with all of us. Plus, as she shared with me, she wants to be horny for ME tonight.
Gotta run.
Happy New Year to everyone. 2012 is already shaping up to be incredible.
How do you ask another guy to have sex with your wife? The answer is "very awkwardly". I will say it's definitely a first in my book.
Between my/our anxiety over it all and her seeing him on Thursday and then asking me to wait till Friday - AFTER our get together with Frank - I was all over the place as I'd last posted. I would even say that the anxiety I felt about Friday kind of overshadowed my horniness in a way.
Anyway - a week later, let me recap what happened and where we are.
So, as I said, it was awkward. I was definitely horny and she'd been teasing me before we went over. We were actually quiet on the way over his place. We brought him the tool organizer, a bottle of champagne and Sue had picked up this really neat house-plant - so we were bearing gifts and I knew that would ease us into conversation.
We got there about 8:30pm and every time I'm there I get horny thinking about whether they've fucked in this chair or on that couch. Sue whispered to me that he'd cleaned up a bit as the night before, there was all sorts of guy-stuff all over (she's joked with me that we're much alike in that way - none of us are exactly Felix Unger).
Frank had some wine (I didn't ask how he knew what kind Sue liked - didn't want to do anything to derail the train) and beer as well as some appetizer kinds of snacks. There was a little tension in the air and at one point when Sue went to use the bathroom, Frank asked me what was going to happen. I told him that I would bring "it" up when I thought the time was right, he assured me he'd play right along with whatever happened.. At another point when I was out of the room I snuck back and peeked in and saw the 2 of them talking together so I suspected they were doing the same as he and I had done, prepared themselves.
But as I've said all along - it's very easy with the 3 of us together - so the conversations and the alcohol flowed effortlessly. At one point Frank asked us if we wanted to smoke some pot - which naturally led to a discussion of where he'd gotten it (one of his clients had offered it to him) and the whole thing about whether it should be legal for adults or not. It was a good conversation as it let us open up a bit about something unconventional. We went out on his deck where we smoked some of it. Turned out it was pretty good and it definitely relaxed our conversation afterwards. We bantered about all sorts of things including me joking with Frank about seeing a Penthouse magazine in the magazine rack - which left us all laughing when he said he "liked the articles" in it. But it was a great conversation starter. After we all got another round of drinks I found the courage to open up the real subject/reason for our getting together. In our enlightened mood, the banter went to how much his right hand enjoyed the magazine. Sue didn't understand the reference right away but soon got it and turned red and giggled which made us all laugh out loud. The talk went to how Frank was doing dating-wise and when he said he was in a slump, and it sounds crazy but I just came out and said that "maybe Sue could help you out?".
There was silence for a second and then I said to Sue that it was something we'd talked about and I looked at Frank, who was white-faced at what I'd just said, and I said something that I thought it would be exciting and said to Frank that we'd been talking about doing something like this - "spicing things up" and then I said "unless you're not interested, that is?" and then I looked at Sue and said something like "I guess I should make sure you're okay?". She smiled and played the part up in saying that she wasn't totally sure but thought Frank was a nice guy and then played up a concern over making a fantasy become a reality.
None of what happened was what any of us expected. Frank asked what the fantasy was about and Sue owned up to thinking about him when we'd had sex. She just made it up as we went along but it was Frank who I look back at and have to laugh at. He was listening to everything and looking at me, I guess, as if to ask me if this is something I coached her into saying. But it honestly seemed just totally spontaneous. Like a deer in the headlights he seemed frozen listening to her. I don't think he knew what to say or how to answer until I said to him that I thought he was a great guy and I said that if I was going to have to pick a guy for her to have fun with, that I'd be comfortable with him.
And that was it. It was out in the open. He asked how it would work and once he did so and I think Sue and I felt we were all in sync, it seemed almost easy to discuss. The conversations I'd had with Frank made it easier for me to feel comfortable talking to him. Sue played her part perfectly - but again, how the conversation just seemed to happen made it all seem totally innocent and spontaneous - not what either of us had discussed with each other or with Frank.
We'd been talking almost non-stop and by then, it was kind of late already in that it was almost 11pm - over 2 hours had gone by effortlessly and now, we'd hit a high-point. I know Sue and I were sensitive to this from some of our earliest experiences - that it's better to end on a high-note than to push an evening further along. Through our discussion we'd shared - either Sue or I or both of us - that she'd wanted to fulfill her fantasy before she got too old - that I thought the idea of a hot-wife was arousing and we both shared some of the role-playing fun we'd had and how we wanted to go to the next step. I also shared that I thought I'd be okay with Sue playing without me but that I hoped that it could also be the 3 of us at times and I told Frank that was also one of Sue's longtime-fantasies, 2 guys at once.
I know it sounds like we were all crazy or something for how open and easy the conversation flowed, but as I've said, he IS an easy guy to talk to, something about him is just so disarming. Anyway, I digress. At some point we all raised our glasses and toasted to "fantasies". As I said, Sue and I were aware that we wanted to end the night on a good point. I made mention of the time and Sue seemed right on cue and said we should be going.
Here's where I made a careful decision. I stood up and shook Franks hand and said thanks, that it'd been a fun evening and as he and Sue both stood up I said that I hoped we'd be seeing each other again soon. Before Sue could say anything though, I said that I was going to go out and get the car started up and warmed up and I said to the two of them that "you two can say goodbye and talk for a minute" while the car warmed up. I felt like I was walking on Cloud 9 as I walked out and yelled back for Sue to get his phone numbers and Email addresses.
Sue came out about 10 minutes later and kissed me and I could smell and taste a bit that she'd just given Frank a blow-job!!!! She said he was elated and they agreed to now openly swap Emails with him to plan their/our next meeting. Needless to say, when we got home that night - it was quite intense - even to the point where our daughter said something to Sue the next day about hearing "noises" in the middle of the night.
But sorry to burst any bubbles, they/we are not getting together until next week at the earliest. Turned out that after his last round of holiday depression, that he'd made plans to go to his brother's house for New Years.
And, it was Sue who turned down seeing him this past Thursday. We both had 1/2 days at work and with both kids home, she felt it wouldn't be right to not be home with all of us. Plus, as she shared with me, she wants to be horny for ME tonight.
Gotta run.
Happy New Year to everyone. 2012 is already shaping up to be incredible.
