On optimal cock size...

[cuck4sara]

Mismatch of cocks and pussies!

You may well be right Saraha.
Re cock size, the Kama Sutra explains the different cock & cunt sizes and explains how they should be matched.

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Genital Categories
Yoni and lingam sizes are said to be of three kinds with a total of nine combinations possible for intercourse. Man is divided into three classes: the Hare Man, the Bull Man, and the Horse Man, according to the size of his lingam. Woman also, according to the depth of her yoni, is either a female deer, a mare, or a female elephant.

The Kama Sutra describes these various types as such:

* The Hare Man is a lively individual with a slight body type and a gentle manner. His lingam is considered to be of the small variety and measures about six finger widths in length, which is equivalent to about 4 inches.
* The Bull Man has a sturdy body and holds himself with esteem. He is considered of a medium size and his temperament is hearty and energetic. When erect, he measures about eight finger widths, or 51/2 inches.
* The Stallion, or Horse Man, is the largest of the three. He is said to be tall and muscular and has a sense of adventurism and daring. He measures twelve finger widths, which equals about 8 inches.
* The Deer Woman is the smallest of the types of women. She’s of slight build, is gentle, and it is said that her secretions smell like a new lotus blossom opening. Her yoni is narrow and not very deep, thus she is best pared with the Hare Man.
* The Mare Woman has a medium-size yoni. She is said to be sturdy in body, and conducts life with a flare. Her personality is positive and sensuous. She is best suited to partner with a Bull Man, and her vulva area is full and generous.
* The Elephant Woman is large boned and often has a taller-than-average body. She is affable and agreeable and can have a rather ruddy complexion. She is best partnered with a Stallion Man as he can bring her deep yoni the most pleasure.


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Therefore in a multitude of cases complaing of a mans cock size is simply a case of mismatching.

I agree so much with you here but also a big contributor to a woman's satisfaction is also related to her perception of the man she's with, if she really wants him and feels a sense of achievement in HAVING him, for that initial period of time at least, that sense of success can mean she receives great sexual satisifaction in having him between her legs.

 

[cuck4sara]

Ah but my friend you put words in my mouth!

4Julie,

If you re-read my post #10 (above), which you re-produced in your post #12 (also above), I think you'll see it begins:



My post made no claim that the "Scandalous Women" survey is representative of all women, nor do they make that claim themselves. It is a survey of their female readers. Thus, your preoccupation with establishing that it isn't representative of all women seems puzzling.

An aside regarding your comment about evangelical christians: that religious subgroup does not include me, but I suspect you'd have a hard time establishing that their sexual behaviors differ in significant ways from those of other subgroups across the political/religious spectrum.

Regarding your concluding comments:



my, my....

—Custer

4Julie,
Yes, that's right. The survey cannot be considered representative of the female population at large — or rather, the subset of women who have computers, an internet connection, and speak English — because the respondents are self-selected not randomly-selected. Those who voluntarily respond to a survey, be it on the Internet, in a magazine, or elsewhere, are — more-or-less by definition — people who have a particular interest in the subject matter of the survey. This "self-selected respondents" criticism is what invalidates essentially all such surveys as representative of the population being surveyed (ostensibly).
—Custer

I would suggest by your comments here you are trying to imply that it is representative of most English speaking women who get online! It was not on this I inferred bias but on the specialist interest of the population being surveyed! Just as the only reason I mentioned Christians as compared to gay couples was to show that if limited to any one section of society you will have an extremely skewed response that cannot be extrapolated to the population as a whole. I WOULD suggest that Evangelical Christian views on homosexual marriage would greatly differ from those of gay people, the ONLY pretext I commented on about Christians, again you choose to selectively quote without any regard to the actual context.
All that said, it is nice to see you restoring your sense of humour and with Duke’s comments to the fore I hope we can enjoy the humour in all this, note Saraha’s even more humorous asides and enjoy this site for the relief it gives those of us who have lived or aspired to the role of cuckold!

 

[cuck4sara]

Wry humour!

note to 4julie: don't pick on custard stand
he fancies himself a deep thinker ;-)

As always Duke you can use that dry wit of yours to ascribe vitriol as though it was honey!

Thanks for your continuing contributions -they bring a smile where others engender chagrin, sometimes pragmatism can be humorous, particularly when it reponds to pomposity!

I like how you attribute to others ~ their just desserts!

 

[4julie]

I couldn't have said it better myself!

I would suggest by your comments here you are trying to imply that it is representative of most English speaking women who get online! It was not on this I inferred bias but on the specialist interest of the population being surveyed! Just as the only reason I mentioned Christians as compared to gay couples was to show that if limited to any one section of society you will have an extremely skewed response that cannot be extrapolated to the population as a whole. I WOULD suggest that Evangelical Christian views on homosexual marriage would greatly differ from those of gay people, the ONLY pretext I commented on about Christians, again you choose to selectively quote without any regard to the actual context.
All that said, it is nice to see you restoring your sense of humour and with Duke’s comments to the fore I hope we can enjoy the humour in all this, note Saraha’s even more humorous asides and enjoy this site for the relief it gives those of us who have lived or aspired to the role of cuckold!

Thanks for saying what I had been shy of saying myself to let this matter close.

However I'm puzzled by your aspersions against Saraha, is there trouble in paradise?

Duke do you and Cuck4sara have history too?

 

[tommydick]

The preferred size being 7-8 inches makes sense to me because average is 6 so PREFERRED is ABOVE average, but not far above. It's like if you try a soda and it's average it's good, above average is better, but the best freaking soda in the world? What would that be? Can you get better than better than average? Not really, above average then would be PREFERRED but not REQUIRED by women. Makes perfect sense.

 

[Custer Laststand]

Note to 4julie: don't pick on custard stand,
he fancies himself a deep thinker. ;-)

Yeah, 4Julie....

AND I'm very sensitive guy. You don't want to hurt my feelings, do you, 4Julie...?

... [Custard stand] fancies himself a deep thinker. ;-)

Hey, give me a break. I leave that judgement to others (if they have any interest in making it). As for myself, I just say what I think. I've never claimed to have any expertise in the topics of this forum nor have I claimed in this forum to have expertise on anything else. As for my posts, others can take them or leave them, or put me on "ignore" if they find them offensive, or flame me if they're so-inclined, or read them and perhaps even give them some thought if they wish, just like anyone else's posts.

 

[4julie]

First Amendment!

AND I'm very sensitive guy. You don't want to hurt my feelings, do you, 4Julie...?



Hey, give me a break. I leave that judgement to others (if they have any interest in making it). As for myself, I just say what I think. I've never claimed to have any expertise in the topics of this forum nor have I claimed in this forum to have expertise on anything else. As for my posts, others can take them or leave them, or put me on "ignore" if they find them offensive, or flame me if they're so-inclined, or read them and perhaps even give them some thought if they wish, just like anyone else's posts.

I'm a great believer in free speech and in general really enjoy your elucidations, with the odd qualification! I have noticed some of your comments recently acquiring a certain Femdom flavor, has Saraha been influencing you too much?

 

[Custer Laststand]

I'm a great believer in free speech and in general really enjoy your elucidations, with the odd qualification!

Thanks, I appreciate you saying so.

I have noticed some of your comments recently acquiring a certain Femdom flavor, has Saraha been influencing you too much?

No, I don't think so. I've been pretty much inclined toward that since before I "joined" this forum. I do, in fact, appreciate Saraha's posts.

 

[duke9555]

i'm sure all can be settled between us by comparing
cock sizes ...........and i'm sure we'll all be honest
i'll start ( 5" ) ..........the biggest wins the dispute
tia

 

[Custer Laststand]

Brilliant!

Duke,

I'm sure all can be settled between us by comparing our cock sizes ...........and i'm sure we'll all be honest. I'll start ( 5" ) ..........the biggest wins the dispute tia.

That's an excellent suggestion; it's definitely in accordance with long-standing male tradition. I'm sure many women (perhaps all) will also agree that will settle our dispute decisively. You've neglected to include an important statistic, however... the circumference of your erect cock. If that dimension is included, I propose that in the event of a "length tie" we resolve this important argument by comparing our cock volumes.

Mine is 5.6 inches long (measured along the top by myself), and 5.5 inches long (measured along the top by my more-critical wife). It's 5.0 inches in circumference at the largest-diameter point, roughly 1 to 1.5 inches back from the tip, as measured by myself and confirmed by my wife.

—Custer

 

[duke9555]

Duke,



That's an excellent suggestion; it's definitely in accordance with long-standing male tradition. I'm sure many women (perhaps all) will also agree that will settle our dispute decisively. You've neglected to include an important statistic, however... the circumference of your erect cock. If that dimension is included, I propose that in the event of a "length tie" we resolve this important argument by comparing our cock volumes.

Mine is 5.6 inches long (measured along the top by myself), and 5.5 inches long (measured along the top by my more-critical wife). It's 5.0 inches in circumference at the largest-diameter point, roughly 1 to 1.5 inches back from the tip, as measured by myself and confirmed by my wife.

—Custer

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i lose already

good luck Custard Stand

 

[Custer Laststand]

I lose already. Good luck, Custard Stand.

Hey, wait... 4Julie has not yet weighed in.

 

[duke9555]

Hey, wait... 4Julie has not yet weighed in.

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even if i'm bigger than him i'm still not bigger than you
so i can't win

 

[4julie]

Smallest here

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even if i'm bigger than him i'm still not bigger than you
so i can't win

True but I also am the smallest here by quite some measure but surely C4S is biggest at 15 cubic inches to custer's 11 cubic inches even though Custer is longer at 5.5" to his 5.25"! Your challenge was biggest not longest! If you accept Custer's rationale a guy with a 6" penis the thickness of a pencil would be biggest!!!!

Doubt Saraha would enjoy a 6" by 1" dick! Think out of all mentioned C4S would be closest to her ideal!

 

[duke9555]

True but I also am the smallest here by quite some measure but surely C4S is biggest at 15 cubic inches to custer's 11 cubic inches even though Custer is longer at 5.5" to his 5.25"! Your challenge was biggest not longest! If you accept Custer's rationale a guy with a 6" penis the thickness of a pencil would be biggest!!!!

Doubt Saraha would enjoy a 6" by 1" dick! Think out of all mentioned C4S would be closest to her ideal!

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i reject the .25 & .50 differences in measurements
cocks are spongy things and subject to changes
from time to time even during a measurement ....
i range from 4.75 or so to 5.25
thickness looks to be avg. to my eye ?

there would have to be a conspicuous difference
to be considered.

but since Custard has announced his penile
superiority to me i'll submit as most cuck guys do

 

[Custer Laststand]

Considering 4Julie's comments:

True, but I also am the smallest here by quite some measure, but surely C4S is biggest at 15 cubic inches to custer's 11 cubic inches even though Custer is longer at 5.5" to his 5.25"! Your challenge was biggest not longest! If you accept Custer's rationale a guy with a 6" penis the thickness of a pencil would be biggest!!!!

Ah... but I suggested using a "cock volume comparison" as the criterion for argument-winner in the event of a "length tie."

In any case, checking out my jar of writing implements, I see the diameter of a pencil is 5/16" = 0.312". Noting the area of a circle is (pi)(d/2)^2, where pi = 3.14 and d is diameter, the cross-sectional area of a pencil-thin cock would be 0.0767 square inches and it's volume (multiplying by 6") would be 0.46 cubic inches — hardly an argument-winning cock volume.

Referring to 4Julie's comment vis-a-vis Saraha:

I doubt Saraha would enjoy a 6" by 1" dick! Think out of all mentioned C4S would be closest to her ideal!

I suppose one would have to ask Saraha about that. But, allowing that by "pencil thin" 4Julia actually meant a cock with a diameter of 1", then a 6"-long cock with this diameter would have a cross-sectional area of 0.785 square inches and a volume of 4.7 cubic inches. Again, this would not be an argument-winner.

Considering C4S's 5.25" cock with 6.0" circumference, his cock volume (as pointed out by 4Julie) is an impressive 15 cubic inches, while my 5.5" cock with 5.0" circumference has a volume (as also pointed out by 4Julie) of 11 cubic inches.

Thus, if cock length is the criterion, I win! C4S's argument places second, Duke's places third, and 4Julie's comes in fourth. Far-out. Never before have I imagined my cock would one day win an argument for me.

BUT, if cock volume is the criterion, C4S is the clear winner. Sigh. But at least, my argument comes in second. Duke's argument again places third and 4Julie's again places fourth. (Try not to be depressed, 4Julie.)

—Custer

 

[duke9555]

being last in a small dick contest for a cucktype
is a big deal and a WIN imho ..............winning i.e.
the biggest of the smallest cocks contest is actually
nothing ..............but worst is my mediocre finish

4julie wins in my book
tho Custard Stand is the actual winner
and i'll defer to him as the winner and always
treat him with the respect a big cocked guy commands

 

[Custer Laststand]

I would say, based on the following comments by C4S (as well as his preceding comments) in his initial post (# 22) of this thread; i.e.:

.... Most of the wives I’ve fucked, at some part of me cuckolding their husbands, asked me if I would leave my wife and set up home with them, and not because I’m well endowed. I’m not, at 5.25” long by 6” around! But, I’m blessed with being multi-orgasmic and even in my 50’s have managed to cum regularly 10-12 times in any 24 hours and peaked a few years ago at 19 times between wake up and going to sleep that night! I feel that my attitude to women [is critical]. I treat them as individuals, just as I do men, but I never forget that sexually they are women, and as such capable of much more sexually than men. However, most do not have the libido to regularly use their sexual abilities. I feel my main attractions to women are my sense of humour coupled with a willingness to engage in life as an adventure and work on a relationship each and every day. These attributes seem in general to have won me many more women than my looks or male endowment ever merited. I know for sure that allowing a woman to be boss ALL the time is the surest way for her to lose her respect, and therefore, long-term, her sexual desire for one. .... A woman looks to a "real" man to SHARE her life with.

that C4S is also both the clear "sexual endurance and repeat-orgasmic" and also "psychological insight" winner of this argument. Being in his 50's and reliably able to cum 10 to 12 times in 24 hours is definitely impressive. Also, I gather many women consider cock circumference more important to their sexual pleasure than cock length. If so, C4S's 6" circumference (15 cubic inch) cock is an impressive and valuable asset for his wife and lovers.

 

[duke9555]

i guess 4julie and i will console
and cuddle ;-)

 

[4julie]

Lustful comments!

i guess 4julie and i will console
and cuddle ;-)

Sounds like lust in your voice!!!

Unfortunately my current marital circumstances mean that my marriage will soon be over and my location and desires open to the wind!

Not sure how my little impotent cock will fair in the bold world of Femdom!

Maybe need to view alternative means of sexual release!

Agree with Custer, my experience is women put girth above length as long as there's enough length to stay in! Remember saying to Julie about two guys she was doing, a thin 7.5" and fat 5" - assumed she preferred the 7.5" but she said she got so much more from the shorter fat cock!