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How to get wife to cheat on me in our situation?

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JimmyHCO

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So here is our situation. We've been together for almost 10 years, she is 15 years older than me - I'm 30, she is 45. We met when she was 36, and for the first few years we had sex non-stop. Back then she told me she had something like 12 or 15 sexual partners before me (can't remember exactly), and she even admitted that she fantasized about having sex with two men at the same time. We contemplated a little how to make it a reality - she wanted it to be anonymous, and didn't want to do it with any of our mutual friends, but she was hesitating about doing it with strangers for the fear or diseases, and so on. So this idea never went beyond talks during intimate moments in the beginning of our relationship. Then at some point she stopped talking about this completely and didn't like me even bringing it up. I didn't persist much either, because at that point our sex life was still crazy, we humped like rabbits.

But as life would have it, our sex life slowed down, life caught on, and at this point its pretty much came to a hault.

I should say however that a couple of years ago, there was some hope on the horizon... We were hanging out a lot with a mutual friend of ours, and I noticed that she obviously had the hots for him. She would dress up in ******** clothes whenever he would come by, and talked very highly of him. Clearly she wanted to fuck him, and I advised him of that. He was very excited, and he started working on making it happen. He would flirt with her, he would give her long kisses hello and goodbye very close to her lips, and I pretended not to notice any of this. It was this close! She told me she would go to some place with him on one of the weekends for Spanish dancing or something like that. I played it off like I didn't suspect anything of it. But then of all the sudden he met this girl, and said that this whole idea would have to be put on hold. Then he developed a relationship with the girl, and it never happened. My wife is still bitter about it, her attitude towards him completely changed, and I just dont bring up this topic with him.

How for the last couple of years our sex life was almost non existent. We barely have sex anymore, maybe once every two months or so. Now, I am still horny, but it seems that her sex drive is either gone, or she just lost interest in me. This year we only had sex once, or maybe twice. Meanwhile I know she isn't fucking anybody else.

Our other problem is that we both work from home, so pretty much either one of us goes somewhere, we know where each other is going and for how long (not that we check on each other, but thats just how it is). I'm just afraid that she lost her sex drive. I mean, at least I masturbate, but I don't know if she does. Our other problem is that with both of us working from home, we meet very few new people, so theres almost no opportunity for her to fuck somebody.

Now on the rare occasions that we still have sex, I try and be lousy on purpose. I would try and masturbate a couple of times before sex, to reduce my sex drive, and try and surpress my erection to have my dick as soft and small as possible, while pretending that its fully erect. Normally I'm around 6-1/2", but this way I'm able to surpress myself down to about 5-1/2". Also, when I'm fucking her, I don't pull it all the way through. When she begs me to go deeper in, I pretend to be all the way in, while not being anywhere nearly fully in.

I'm just hoping that she will get fed up with the lousy, rare sex, and will finally find a man to fuck her on the side. But what worries me, maybe she lost her sex drive for good? I mean she's already 45, is that too late?

Any suggestions for me?

P.S. She is a hot blond, a bit on the chubby side, with big, gourgeous tits, and delicios ass. She is also a multicummer, and usually cums around 10 times during intercourse.
 
Try porn and toys or "marital aides" as some people like to call it. Use it to play into your fantasy. Rent a gangbang or cuckolding movie and tell her to imagine that girl in the video is her.
 
She usually gets grossed out by gangbang porn, shes not really a slutty type, but I know she would have no problem fucking a guy behind my back, IF she is attracted to him.

Like that friend of mine from few years ago, she wanted to fuck him bad, and made it pretty obvious. Every weekend she would be like lets call this guy and let go hang out together. Once the three of us were chilling at this bar, and she started complaining to him that her armpits were all red from the wax she got, and then she pulled up her shirt to show him the armpit, meanwhile she had a see-thru bra, so obviously she just wanted to flash him her tits. Obviously she was also testing me, as I was sitting right next to her, and the guy was sitting across the table, so she wanted to see what kind of reaction I'll have. I pretended that I believed that her only intention was to show him her armpit. Its just unfortunate that the guy never followed through with this, a few more weekends and she would've fucked him.

In any case, right now I'm not looking to double up on her with another guy right away. That would be the next step if she ever opens up to that. Right now my intention is to get her to start cheating on me. If she has a couple of one night stands, or better yet, a permanent lover, and obviously she will keep it secret from me, but eventually it will surface out and we can take it from there.

So right now I'm trying to push her to it. Like I was saying before, her sex drive seems low (or she lost interest in me), but in any case I'm trying not to give her any sex either, even when I'm horny. And even when we do have sex, I try to be a lousy fuck (although i still make her cum like 6-8 times just by licking her clit), but I try to make her have as little vaginal orgasm as possible. I'm hoping that eventually she'll miss good fucking and find a man on the side that will fuck her really good - that should spice up her sex drive, and hopefully she'll be open to be double teamed.
 
The problem however is that we basically both work from home and don't really meet new people. We don't have any single guy friends that she shows any interest for, and she doesn't have any slutty girl friends that she can hang out with either. Plus, being that we both work from home, we pretty much know exactly where and why either of us is going whenever we leave the house. I need to somehow introduce her to an environment where she'll be able to meet new people and hook up with a guy.
 
If you continue with this approach you will simply drive her out of your life. She sounds completely mobile and unlikely to miss you much if she decides to move on.
 
Puller said:
If you continue with this approach you will simply drive her out of your life. She sounds completely mobile and unlikely to miss you much if she decides to move on.

Well, first of all I'm confident that she will not leave me for anyone else, theres way too much at stake and we are too attached. So that I'm not worried about at all.

However, what approach do you suggest?
 
Some pics of hers. These are 5 years old, she gained about 25-30lb since then, but that only turns me on even more.
 
JimmyHCO said:
P.S. She is a hot blond, a bit on the chubby side, with big, gourgeous tits, and delicios ass. She is also a multicummer, and usually cums around 10 times during intercourse.

Your description is accurate based on the photos you've given - I'm sorry I'm not in a position to become a 'mutual friend', and give her what she obviously is looking for.

If full sex is off the cards, do you still get to be intimate - kissing, cuddling? Verbal fantasy may be one direction to go.

Good luck, and thanks for sharing the pictures with us :)
 
I took mine to a swing club "Just to watch hehe". Some wine and the erotic atmosplere wore down her defences and a very experienced guy joined us in some grinding. He fucked her like a champ and she spread her legs wide for him. He blew a big load into her and she loved it. So did I.
 
greymaster said:
Your description is accurate based on the photos you've given - I'm sorry I'm not in a position to become a 'mutual friend', and give her what she obviously is looking for.

I don't even know if shes looking for anything at this point, I think her sex drive is mostly lost :(

I'm just hoping that someway, somehow, she'll find someone who'll fuck her really good, and put a new life in her sex drive.

greymaster said:
If full sex is off the cards, do you still get to be intimate - kissing, cuddling? Verbal fantasy may be one direction to go.

Not much of that lately either, unfortunately.
 
zippless said:
I took mine to a swing club "Just to watch hehe". Some wine and the erotic atmosplere wore down her defences and a very experienced guy joined us in some grinding. He fucked her like a champ and she spread her legs wide for him. He blew a big load into her and she loved it. So did I.

I can't be that blunt with my wife, I gotta take small steps.

Ideally, it would be some place where someone will start hitting on her, and she shows interest. From there on, I can "assist" on making it happen. Unfortunately, we don't even go to that many places where there's a chance of that. We mostly just go to movies/restaurants - haven't been to a bar/lounge/pub in a while now.

Another problem is that she is 45, and although still extremely hot, at least to me, lets admit it, most guys go for the younger ladies.
 
So its been quite a while since I posted it, but no progress has been made since. However I'm not giving up and I'm determined to make it happen.

Believe it or not during this whole time we only had sex a total of three times. The last time we had sex was actually just two days ago, and after we had the sex we were actually talking, and I asked her if she really hadn't cum since we last did it. She told me she hasn't. I asked her if she masturbates, and she told me that she does not. She also told me she was a bit upset at me for the couple times when I denied her sex (it happened a few times when I was too tired). I told her its not good not to cum for so long and told her she needs to fuck more often, to which she nodded. Notice how I said she, not we, needs to fuck more often.

In any case, we were watching porn before we started having sex, and it just happened so that I put on the old but notorious movie Deep Throat. Neither of us had seen this one before, and after watching it I can certainly say that its an excellent movie, even if the video quality isn't that great by todays standards.

This movie had this one particular scene which I totally loved. While one guy is mounting this girl from the top and fucking her in the ass, another guy is underneath her, licking her pussy. Also, in a previous scene either one of those guys, or another guy came all over this girls ass, so theres a good possibility that there was still some sperm there. Then the guy that was fucking the girls ass had his cock slip out right onto the other guys mouth. I took screenshots of this scene and I'm posting them below.

Now, during this scene my wife couldn't take her eyes off the TV and commented "wow they are really doing whatever they want to in this movie". We both giggled at the slipped cock moment. It was clean my wife was totally turned on by this scene. I know there are women that would be grossed out by something like that, but my wife was clearly excited and her comment was conservative to say the least. I think what she meant was "I wish someone did that to me". We had the best sex ever that night. I had her cum at least 10-12 times just from leaking her pussy, and another 3-4 times by fucking her. She just couldn't get enough. Part of it probably has to do with the fact that she hasn't been fucked in a long time, but part of it probably has to do with the fact that she was aroused by the scene. She really gets off when her pussy is being eaten, and she loves when I finger-fuck her while licking her clit. I could only imagine how much she would love it if she was getting fucked by another cock while I was eating her.

Next time I'm just gonna show her some cuckold porn. I'm gonna pretend that I don't know whats in them, just as if I downloaded it it by accident and see if that turns her on or not. I have an excellent movie with two scenes of white guy eating the girl out while she is being fucked by BBC. If this turns my wife on, I'll just plain out admit to her that it turns me on as well and I want her to try it.

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I have this movie that has nice scenes. I think I'm just going to edit some nastier stuff out of it and show it to her. Here are some screenshots.

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My suggestion is that you make every effort to have awesome sex with her, because she seems to be thinking "sex is no fun anymore so why bother trying".

"Root the ass off her" to get her thinking about sex all the time - and then her mind will beginning yearning for other guys.

You are shooting yourself in the foot by withholding your best sexual efforts.

She can lose the weight again if she feels that men are lusting after her. If her own husband doesn't bother to screw her often, then why would any other guy want to.

Put her back on a pedestal and worship the ground she walks on, and she will become a sexual woman again with horny desires.

Get her new clothes and encourage her to go out with her friends (or to make new friends), so they can seed her mind with naughty stories of what horny women can get up to.

She needs friends who are "more than prim and proper housewives". She needs friends who will lead her astray, so that your wishes cum true.
 
My advice to you would be to totally swing it around the other way, to create a sexual feeling in the air.. get her thinking dreaming of sex. 45 is definitely not a problem many women get increased sex drives in their last 40's.
I think that you should be trying to increase the sexual mood, this is the way i would do it.
Go out for dinner or to a bar, when you get home, ask her if she saw the guy who was staring at her, tell her how hot she was looking etc etc. Women love feeling wanted, make her feel that way and you will improve the odds.. think back to when your friend wanted her - remember how good she felt. Make her feel wanted and sexy then look at how to get her with another guy.
 
Saraha said:
My suggestion is that you make every effort to have awesome sex with her, because she seems to be thinking "sex is no fun anymore so why bother trying".

"Root the ass off her" to get her thinking about sex all the time - and then her mind will beginning yearning for other guys.

You are shooting yourself in the foot by withholding your best sexual efforts.

She can lose the weight again if she feels that men are lusting after her. If her own husband doesn't bother to screw her often, then why would any other guy want to.

Put her back on a pedestal and worship the ground she walks on, and she will become a sexual woman again with horny desires.

Actually you just said exactly what I was thinking. I kind of realized it myself. In the past when we had sex a lot more often she used to be a lot more sexual in general. She used to dress sexier, act sexier, and I think if I was open to cuckolding in the beginning of our relationship, it would've been a lot easier to achieve than it is now.

I need to get her sex drive back up, and I believe she is willing. I mean, every time we have sex, she says it is a shame that we don't have it very often, and every time we say that we're gonna start doing it more often, but then life catches on with us, and its can be months until the next time we have sex.

What I plan on doing is to get her sex drive back up by having sex with her at least twice a week from now on. Plenty of sex, some porn and horny talk should get her on the path.

As far as her weight, I don't feel its a problem. I mean she has some extra pounds, but she's naturally curvy with very big tits. If you take a look at the pics of her I posted on the first page, she certainly gained some pounds since then, but nothing too terrible.



Saraha said:
Get her new clothes and encourage her to go out with her friends (or to make new friends), so they can seed her mind with naughty stories of what horny women can get up to.

She needs friends who are "more than prim and proper housewives". She needs friends who will lead her astray, so that your wishes cum true.

How would you go about making such friends? Most of her friends are just that - prim and proper housewives, lol. She only has one relatively slutty friend, and in fact I can be pretty much open and honest with that girl, and I'm sure she'll be willing to help me out with my agenda. The only problem with that is my wife is considerably better looking and the other girl has quite a bit of jealousy towards her, and that can be dangerous. They went on vacation together once - my wife, the girl, and the girls fuck buddy. And the girls fuck buddy kept hitting on my wife, and needless to say the girl was pissed. My wife didn't sleep with him, she said she wasn't interested, but I don't think thats the reason. I think the reason is she didn't want me to find out, as she doesn't realize I'm ok with this, and she didn't want to ruin her friendship with the girl.

To find her friends that will lead her astray can prove to be very difficult. Worse yet, finding a good partner will probably be even more difficult, even if she opens to the idea. I mean how do you find someone who will fuck the wife in front of her husband and not become a total a-hole about it. In either case, thats the next line that needs to be crossed, once she opens up to the idea in the first place.

Ideally I want to move slow. I want to start by having MFM sex with her before we get into true cuckolding. I would never want to take it to the point where I'm in panties, or in chastity, or having the bull moving in. But I would like to get to the point where I'm fluffing and cleaning both of them. Ideally I would also like to satisfy my bisexual desires, by getting to suck her bulls cock and having him fuck me, but I doubt it will happen, as my isn't very fond of gay sex.
 
Saraha said:
My suggestion is that you make every effort to have awesome sex with her, because she seems to be thinking "sex is no fun anymore so why bother trying".

"Root the ass off her" to get her thinking about sex all the time - and then her mind will beginning yearning for other guys.

You are shooting yourself in the foot by withholding your best sexual efforts.

She can lose the weight again if she feels that men are lusting after her. If her own husband doesn't bother to screw her often, then why would any other guy want to.

Put her back on a pedestal and worship the ground she walks on, and she will become a sexual woman again with horny desires.

Get her new clothes and encourage her to go out with her friends (or to make new friends), so they can seed her mind with naughty stories of what horny women can get up to.

She needs friends who are "more than prim and proper housewives". She needs friends who will lead her astray, so that your wishes cum true.

I'll be damned saraha. I find myself in total agreement with you. that's a hell of a good plan.
45 is not too old my wife Ruthie is 47 and still going strong. Although menapause (I know I spelled that wrong)can slow some women down so a possible trip to the Dr. wouldn't hurt.
 
If you believe that it is hard to find women to lead your wife astray, guess what, the Law of Atrraction listens to your doubts, and makes sure your doubts come true.

"OF COURSE SHE WILL FIND TONS OF HORNY WOMEN TO LEAD HER ASTRAY"

Throw your doubts into the Trash Can, and the universe will hear your wishes.

All wives think horny thoughts, but most are too scared of what society will say, if they allow themselves to express their primal urges.

You would be surprised if you could read the minds of prim and proper women. Even a Vicar's wife can be led astray.

How does a saleman sell a car?
Plant suggestions into the customer's mind as to how nice it will be to own the car.
Do the same with your wife, sow seeds in her mind that men are checking her body out. That makes her mind work overtime and she will start toning up her body and encouraging their attention (subconsciously).

I think your attractive wife is RIPE for a guy's attention, because you have been neglecting her. She has been telling you she needs more COCK.
 
What would happen if you fucked your wife five times a week instead of your target of twice?

If you gave her that much attention, she might feel so grateful that you could easily lead her mind down the path of sleeping with other horny guys.

That leaves two nights a week for her to go out with friends. She can make new friends if she knows she has permission and has two nights off each week. You can hold the fort whilst she goes out.

A wife needs time off - a break from all household duties and commitments. Make sure she leaves the house and TAKES HER BREAK........get her into the habit of looking forward for her off-duty time, even if she just goes to talk to a relative to catch up on news.

Time off lets her freshen up her mind and lets her dream of better things, of new abundance and sparkling things to do, of cocks to ride, to do things she has always wanted to do if only she had the time.
 
Sahara, thanks for your time, I really appreciate your awesome responses.

First of all, let me address the fact that I don't think her or I could handle 5 times a week... lol. She is still sore from our last sex but she promised me some for tonight. Also its not just us two, we have our 16 year old in the house (from her previous marriage) who often stay up later than us, lol. Right now even handling twice a week can be challenging. But in any case, I will be doing it, this way it should get her sex drive back up again and return her interest in sex.

Now see, as far as being proper and prim, I know she is not. I've seen that "*****" light in her eyes, I know exactly when she's getting horny, and I've seen her get horny for other guys in the past. I know she cheated on her exes, and I'm very sure she'd cheat on me if there was a chance to do it with no consequences.

She doesn't work - she helps me with my work, but really not much. She doesn't do any hard house duties either, we have a cleaning lady, and the only thing she does is go light food shopping. She doesn't clean, doesn't do laundry, none of that hard stuff. She has tons of free time. When she goes somewhere I don't ask her where, when, for how long - none of that. She has plenty of clothes, shes always buying new stuff online, etc. She drives a very nice, expensive coupe. She would be a total MILF dream come true for horny guys. I'm attaching some very recent pics of her below, I think most will find her desirable.

It is getting her into a situation where she can find a partner is a problem. Not having a job shes not ******* to potential partners. Most of our friends are married, with children, and whenever we have gatherings, they usually involve lots of people, family members, etc. We were never into bar/club scene either. She really doesn't have girlfriends that would go clubbing, otherwise I would encourage her to go.

I already do what I can. I send her on vacations by herself or with her girlfriend whenever I can. I usually send her to Miami a few times a year, and other vacations. There's a good possibility that she has cheated on me on some of those, but I wouldn't know for sure. She doesn't raise this topic and I'm afraid to directly approach it.

I think that if I man up, and tell her about my desires, if she is interested then we can work together to find her a partner(s). But I don't want to just be so blunt off the bat, I wanna take a slow approach as to not scare her off.

I'm not giving up, thats for sure.
 

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