I've been talking to JoAnn a bit more since I'm home. She's been very reassuring to me. She keeps assuring me that she loves me and that this is just a temporary non-sexual thing with dad so that she can have a 'boyfriend' that she can actually go out with.HappyFace said:Sorry bud. I don’t think she’ll wait till marriage.
I'm only posting on this site because when I tried to post it to every other site they took it down or banned me.msbevw said:Wish your dad well, and then stay out of their way and let things proceed as they will. You are on this site for a reason, that being that you want to experience a cuckold lifestyle. so let it happen.
I can't do much about it besides keeping a strong bond with JoAnn and working to convince her to stay with me. The thought of her having sex with him... I can't just act like it's no big deal. To some people it's not, but when JoAnn and I are both virgins, and we've been together for years... It is a big deal. Not only that, but being a Mormon she's expected to marry whomever she first has sex with. I don't really understand it but apparently sex is viewed in a way as marriage.SheDontLikeIdea said:Yup.....It sucks to b u right now....But there is nothing u can do about it. And as for the sex part of this whole deal....Don't put so much weight on it. Things transpire naturally....And if anything were to happen....It was meant to be.
Since I've been back home I've seen them together several times. That first time he had his arm around her and she kinda had her head resting on his shoulder.msbevw said:So when dear old dad and JoAnn were cuddling on the sofa were they being intimate, kissing and making out, or just being close? When you and JoAnn had some alone time how did you interact? Did the two of you kiss, hug? Any intimacy at all or is hers all going to your dad?
I think it would be very difficult to see your father and your (ex)girlfriend kissing.
It now appears to me that Ms. Andrea is giving you good advice.whatevur said:[Andrea] asked me if things were getting better. I said yeah, a bit, but really slow.
She asked me if I thought I could learn to accept things the way they are. I said no, I don't think so. She said she thinks I can.... and I should. She said I should do whatever it takes to accept the current situation and go with the flow.
Now you're starting to have positive thoughts....whatevur said:I said I would try - but only as long as things do [don't? was this a Freudian slip?] go any farther between JoAnn and dad. She told me not to think about that since it wasnt going to happen. She said i'm only making things worse for myself by having thoughts like that. I asked her how I could let things go and accept the situation.
Ms. Andrea is subjecting you to good training.whatevur said:Andrea said, "Repeat after me:"
Andrea: "JoAnn is dating other guys."
Me: "My girlfriend is dating others."
Andrea: "No, stop looking at her as your girlfriend, you need to see all this in a DIFFERENT light, try again."
Me: "JoAnn is dating other guys."
Andrea: "I'm in love with JoAnn, but she's currently in a relationship with another man."
"Me: "I'm in love with JoAnn, but she's currently in a relationship with another man."
Andrea: "And that's a GOOD thing, she's happier now"
Me: "And that's a good thing, she's happier now."
Andrea: "JoAnn is dating my dad."
Me: "JoAnn is dating my dad."
Andrea: "JoAnn is my dad's girlfriend."
Me: "JoAnn is my dads girlfriend."
Andrea: "My dad is JoAnn's boyfriend."
Me: "My dad is JoAnn's boyfriend."
Andrea: "Together they are a couple."
Me: "Together they are a couple."
Andrea: "And there's nothing wrong with that, they are happy together."
Me: "And there's nothing wrong with that, they are happy together."
Yes, that is what you should do. Not so much "thinking about it," which is causing you anxiety, but keep repeating to yourself what Ms. Andrea had you repeat after her.whatevur said:I asked her how this would help, but she just told me to keep thinking about it and keep repeating what we went over.
I suggest you assume Ms. Andrea does know what she's talking about, and follow her instructions.whatevur said:I don't really understand it, but shes been studying psycology and therapy so I hope she knows what shes talking about.
And this is the reason. Ms. JoAnn is happier dating your father, not just spending time with you. Another reason is, your father is almost certainly happier now that he's dating an attractive young woman who likes him.whatevur said:I think JoAnn has been a lot happier since all this started. She's been able to get out more and have more of a social life.
This too is good.whatevur said:And recently, she [Ms. Joann] and I have been able to spend a lot more time together.
Good. And, I suggest it's time for you to begin realizing and accepting that many women are happier if they have more than one man. To help you move toward this acceptance, I suggest reading:whatevur said:I've been doing my best to take Andrea's advice to just go with the flow and accept things the way they are right now.
I strongly advise you against trying to carry out sneaky plans to try to "break up" your dad and Ms. Joanne. The most likely result, in my opinion, will be that your schemes will backfire and alienate you from BOTH your dad and Ms. Joanne, causing them to view you as someone who is sneaky and can't be trusted.whatevur said:I've also been working on a few plans to break JoAnn and dad up. I know it's immoral, but I really want the pain to end. .....
Take Ms. Andrea's advice and follow her instructions, which appear to be good (as you've quoted her in your post).whatevur said:Do you guys have any ideas?
Tugmynutz said:Your dad is beating that young pussy up. Probably isn't even wrapping it up just load after load in that young pussy just feeding her morning after pills so you don't know he's pounding the love of your life. Just face it the closest you going to get to penetrating that sweet young box is jerking off in her dirty panties
Why do you guys keep saying stuff like this? Have you not read my previous entries? She's very religious and shes promised me she wont have sex with him. I have seen no signs or evidence to suggest otherwise. I don't know what kind of messed up over-sexxed world you guys come from, but some parts of the world are still very traditional.willngtobcuc said:Agreed he is done
I've thought about that. It seems pretty hard to find GOOD small cameras online. Most of them are chinese junk, have bad reviews, don't have a long battery, aren't small enough, etc. Even then, you find one that is supposedly good and its super expensive.HappyFace said:Hidden camera works wonders too...
I don't know if her advice is good or not. I'm thinking of seeing a real professional to get a second opinion. I'm also not sure if I genuinely want to accept this. I don't want to turn into a cuckold. It shouldnt be a choice between that or me being hurt and depressed.Custer Laststand said:It now appears to me that Ms. Andrea is giving you good advice.
Now you're starting to have positive thoughts....
Ms. Andrea is subjecting you to good training.
Yes, that is what you should do. Not so much "thinking about it," which is causing you anxiety, but keep repeating to yourself what Ms. Andrea had you repeat after her.
I suggest you assume Ms. Andrea does know what she's talking about, and follow her instructions.
And this is the reason. Ms. JoAnn is happier dating your father, not just spending time with you. Another reason is, your father is almost certainly happier now that he's dating an attractive young woman who likes him.
This too is good.
Good. And, I suggest it's time for you to begin realizing and accepting that many women are happier if they have more than one man. To help you move toward this acceptance, I suggest reading:
http://hotwifeletters.com/
(or enter HotwifeLetters dot com in your preferred search engine).
I strongly advise you against trying to carry out sneaky plans to try to "break up" your dad and Ms. Joanne. The most likely result, in my opinion, will be that your schemes will backfire and alienate you from BOTH your dad and Ms. Joanne, causing them to view you as someone who is sneaky and can't be trusted.
Take Ms. Andrea's advice and follow her instructions, which appear to be good (as you've quoted her in your post).
And, I suggest repeating to yourself what Ms. Andrea told you to repeat after her, while you masturbate each night. While doing so, imagine to yourself Ms. Joanne fucking another man (not necessarily your father, but in a more abstract sense), and each time you finish repeating what Ms. Andrea told you to repeat to yourself, say to yourself: "This turns me on," as you imagine Ms. joanne's happiness increased as she attains sexual and psychological satisfaction above and beyond what you can give her. Continue until you ejaculate (which will be positive reinforcement), and don't allow negative thoughts to creep into your mind.
Then, after about a week of repeating these things to yourself while you masturbate to ejaculation, tell Ms. Andrea that's what you're doing. My guess is, she will approve and give you additional positive reinforcement.
Believe me I've kept an eye on that condom box. They are all still there.msbevw said:Have you checked the condom box? Are there some missing from the box? If there is, there is only one reason for them to be gone. It means your dad is using them and you can get an idea by counting the missing ones how often your dad is having sex with JoAnn. And if that's the case, then there is nothing you can do about it except the fact that she is truly his now and get out of their way. My guess is that you will find quite a few condoms gone from the box so no reason for you to take any.
There's nothing wrong with that, if you can afford it — or if you have health insurance that will cover a psychological problem of this nature. You should, of course, check in advance to see whether your insurance will cover it.whatevur said:I don't know if her [Ms. Andrea's] advice is good or not. I'm thinking of seeing a real professional to get a second opinion.
You're taking this too seriously, Whatevur. According to surveys, the percentage of married women who have had at least one affair has become roughly similar to the percentage of married men who have had at least one affair (something like 50%).whatevur said:I'm also not sure if I genuinely want to accept this. I don't want to turn into a cuckold. ......