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MichaelWills said:
Alexis,

As you may have figured out from surfing this site, there are a lot of people who get turned on to the idea of their wives being with other men, especially black men. And I think that if the polls were done the majority of the people thus intrigued is from couples with limited outside experience. A lot of couples who start this is when the kids leave home, they have time to devote to each other, more time to explore their sexuality, and via the internet discover that some of these deep hidden fantasies are shared by other people.

An interest, or even just being intrigued, about a part of that does not mean anyone wants you to participate. There are a lot of people on here who are turned on to the idea of it--but have never done it and never will. Others live out their fantasies here from those who do indulge.

What I can guarantee is that if opening a marriage is something you are dead set against--then it won't happen, it is just thought on his part and nothing to worry about. If he wants to you try it, and you don't--still it is your body, and you simply say "no" and there is nothing to worry about.

If the idea is intriguing--as it will probably be a few days after the initial discovery--then it is time that you start talking to your hubby about what he's thinking--and you're thoughts. Communication with him is vital no matter what you want to or do not want to do. If you two are not openly communicating with each other neither one of you have any business on this kind of site if there is any thoughts of anyone doing it for real.

I can't speak for you, I can tell you that it started for us when we were having a long talk after a good friend had passed away (and the kids had left home, and we were re-discovering each other, and had limited sexual experience before we married). The friend had died young, and in the course of the conversation I asked her, "If you knew you were going to go tomorrow, would you have any regrets."

She told me -- and among her unfulfilled fantasies was that she had always wondered what it would be like to be with a black guy. Black guys had always turned her on, which she didn't think I'd observed. (I had). So we drank some more, talked some more, and I said, "We could do that--you shouldn't have unfulfilled fantasies--nothing unsaid, nothing undone."

We talked about it for a few months, started coming to this site on the paid side, ran an ad, rejected all the respondents for one reason or another, and then happened upon the right guy who was into it on a limited way and she took the plunge. That was nearly three years ago, and something we still enjoy.

It did not destroy our marriage, in fact it opened us up a lot more to each other. I'm very straight, I take photos and video the encounters which we watch together afterward and get hot all over again.

The lifestyle may not be right for you, but obviously it is something that you and your husband need to talk about with an open mind. Don't go into a conversation with him about it with your mind already made up about how wrong, or dangerous, or insulting to you that you might think this might be.
Instead listen to what he has to say, think about it, and respond honestly to him as well.

Whether you ever do anything in this lifestyle or not, I think you both need to know where you stand on it, and neither of you will know until you start the dialogue.

I realize that he may just be intrigued by it and not really want me to participate. That's what I'm hoping, and also that's why I'm worried about even bringing it up to him.
 
You're right we haven't. When she found out I just got embarassed n refused to answer any of her questions. But to answer your question I would actually like to involve her. But just don't have the courage to ever come out n ask her to actually do it.
 
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joyful.red said:
You're right we haven't. When she found out I just got embarassed n refused to answer any of her questions. But to answer your question I would actually like to involve her. But just don't have the courage to ever come out n ask her to actually do it.

I wonder if that's true of most of the guys who come here whose wives don't participate?
 
Alex, It's an anomaly in a sense that men want to see their women as sexual objects rather than the wholesome "good girl" wives that marriage usually creates of their women. When you first met the sexual intrigue was peaking and very new to both of you.
Time seems to take the lustful edge off of married sex unless you can inject a new urgency into the mix. Jealousy seems to do that for men making them want to compete
in this sexual arena. Watching their women actually enjoying sex with another man is an actual biologically engrained anomaly called sperm competition. This creates an unbelievably intense desire in the man to want to be better than his wifes lover. Men can't understand it either...but it exists. The desire (lust) is even more urgent than any jealously aspect...and that is why men would allow it...and indulge in the fantasy of it. It doesn't mean he doesn't love you. Quite the contrary. He actually lusts for you and wants you at your most sexual self. Sometimes that is only achieved when you are enjoying the newness from the sex of different men.
 
Don't you think your hubby will find your posts on here?

If he is coming here he will put 2 and 2 together and figure out you are posting here.

Kinda seems that you want him to know that you know he comes on here. And if you weren't intrigued at all you wouldn't post here.

If you need advice you sure wouldn't want to get it here. This site is for married white women who have a bbc lover. So wouldn't you think that any white male on here wants his wife to have bbc.

Just my 2 cents
 
Alexis,

Many men come here to fuel their fantasy. Do you have any fantasies? Do they involve other men or just your husband? If they involved other men would you ever go through with them or just let them get you in the mood for sex with hubby? Even if you knew there would be no consequences?

Men are very visual. They like to see other men and women. Sometimes that progresses to seeing their wives with those other men. Black men with white women are and always have been taboo in many cultures here in the US. That makes it all the more illicit so the turn on is even bigger.

Look into your mind and decide what you think about this. Once you're satisfied with your feelings, talk to your husband and see what his feelings are. He may just be looking and fantasizing. He may never consider you actually participating with another man black or white. The thoughts and fantasies may be all he needs to get turned on for you.

Myself, I would never have considered it while I was married. I've never been a swinger or had any thoughts about joining that lifestyle. I never really thought about going out with a black man until I was fixed up on a blind date by a friend. I went along with the flow and never regretted it. Different people get turned on by different things. I wouldn't get too concerned just yet. Think about it and talk about it. Let your mind fantisize about being taken by a strong black man and given the most amazing sex you could ever imagine. I think you'll be surprised by your reaction. Whether you ever go through with it is besides the point right now.

Laura
 
I would just say a couple of things about this. First, if your husband wants this for you, don't assume that he doesn't love you. He probably does. Second, you could, of course, just reject this out of hand, but before you make any kind of decision I'd say look into it. Learn a bit about it. Then, talk to your husband. This all might be much more exciting and pleasurable than you can imagine. And, strange to say, it could make you and your husband closer.
 
SentientDog said:
Alex, It's an anomaly in a sense that men want to see their women as sexual objects rather than the wholesome "good girl" wives that marriage usually creates of their women. When you first met the sexual intrigue was peaking and very new to both of you.
Time seems to take the lustful edge off of married sex unless you can inject a new urgency into the mix. Jealousy seems to do that for men making them want to compete
in this sexual arena. Watching their women actually enjoying sex with another man is an actual biologically engrained anomaly called sperm competition. This creates an unbelievably intense desire in the man to want to be better than his wifes lover. Men can't understand it either...but it exists. The desire (lust) is even more urgent than any jealously aspect...and that is why men would allow it...and indulge in the fantasy of it. It doesn't mean he doesn't love you. Quite the contrary. He actually lusts for you and wants you at your most sexual self. Sometimes that is only achieved when you are enjoying the newness from the sex of different men.


It seems a lot of the men here don't want to "compete". They actually want their wife to have a BETTER lover than they are. Some even don't want to have sex with their wife anymore at all. Seems strange to me.
 
whitesubhubby said:
Don't you think your hubby will find your posts on here?

If he is coming here he will put 2 and 2 together and figure out you are posting here.

Kinda seems that you want him to know that you know he comes on here. And if you weren't intrigued at all you wouldn't post here.

If you need advice you sure wouldn't want to get it here. This site is for married white women who have a bbc lover. So wouldn't you think that any white male on here wants his wife to have bbc.

Just my 2 cents

Well, if my real name is Alexis, I guess yours is whitesubhubby. Glad to meet you. I said I was shocked not stupid. Also, about asking here, you're right. I will probably get one sided information, but I take that aspect into account. This isn't exactly the kind of thing that is easy to bring up in everyday conversation with friends and family.
 
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laura-lme said:
Alexis,

Many men come here to fuel their fantasy. Do you have any fantasies? Do they involve other men or just your husband? If they involved other men would you ever go through with them or just let them get you in the mood for sex with hubby? Even if you knew there would be no consequences?

Men are very visual. They like to see other men and women. Sometimes that progresses to seeing their wives with those other men. Black men with white women are and always have been taboo in many cultures here in the US. That makes it all the more illicit so the turn on is even bigger.

Look into your mind and decide what you think about this. Once you're satisfied with your feelings, talk to your husband and see what his feelings are. He may just be looking and fantasizing. He may never consider you actually participating with another man black or white. The thoughts and fantasies may be all he needs to get turned on for you.

Myself, I would never have considered it while I was married. I've never been a swinger or had any thoughts about joining that lifestyle. I never really thought about going out with a black man until I was fixed up on a blind date by a friend. I went along with the flow and never regretted it. Different people get turned on by different things. I wouldn't get too concerned just yet. Think about it and talk about it. Let your mind fantisize about being taken by a strong black man and given the most amazing sex you could ever imagine. I think you'll be surprised by your reaction. Whether you ever go through with it is besides the point right now.

Laura

I'm glad you posted. I agree with you 100%. Here you are a girl who dated someone and had amazing sex. Good for you! Now, as you stated, you would never have considered it while you were married. To my way of thinking, also good for you.

And this thing about black men, I can see the pictures, I hear the comments like "best sex ever" and "so big" and on and on. So, for example only, let's say I'm single I may want to try sex with a black guy to find out for myself how good it is. Being married, I would NOT want to find out how good it is. What if I liked it more than with my husband. That could ruin my marriage. Is it worth it? Not to my way of thinking. Talk about playing with fire!
 
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sc_david said:
I would just say a couple of things about this. First, if your husband wants this for you, don't assume that he doesn't love you. He probably does. Second, you could, of course, just reject this out of hand, but before you make any kind of decision I'd say look into it. Learn a bit about it. Then, talk to your husband. This all might be much more exciting and pleasurable than you can imagine. And, strange to say, it could make you and your husband closer.

Actually, I always thought we were close. Now I'm not so sure.
 
Alexis, what exactly were you shocked by? That your husband was visiting a porn site, that he was visiting an interracial porn site, or that he was visiting a site about men who share their wives with other men?

Did you already know that your husband watches porn? Did you already know that your husband watches interracial porn? (and did he know you know this?)
 
Well,

Alexis,

You've had plenty of input--some of it very good, some it less so, but it is what you get tossing out any question in a forum.

You've had time to sleep on it, and opportunities to mention it to your hubby, or continue to ignore the 600 pound gorilla sitting in the middle of the room.
Are you less confused than you were?

And how do you plan to handle it?

By the way, I once had had a friend whose very straight laced and devout wife divorced him because she came home from shopping and caught him choking the monkey with a Penthouse magazine at his feet. I would hope you wouldn't let the simple fact your hubby checked out an interracial sex site be anything more than the harmless web surfing that it could be.
 
this is some jerry springer shit.
 
MichaelWills,
Funny that your comment made me think of the Texas Longhorn. His wife divorced him for very similar but more extreme reasons. She caught him sucking his own 16 inch cock after she had told him to quit doing that.
 
Alexis, I still think, at this point, you're reading too much into this. He's not approached you about it or tried to fix you up yet. I think he's building up his fantasies in his mind. Now if he asked you to go play, then you've got some more questions that have to be answered.

Do you always fantasize about sex with your husband or do you think about the hot guy you saw at the gym? So long as you use it for something to get turned on while having sex with your husband I see nothing wrong with it. Right now I see it as nothing worse than thumbing through a Playboy or Playgirl for that matter.
 
My wife knows about my interracial fantasy and has for a number of years. I would love to see her with a black guy and she does enjoy the fantasy of it, but has said that she would never actually do it. She and I often watch interracial porn, and she does indulge me with "I bet you wish that was me getting fucked" while we watch.

I have resigned myself with the fact that she will never do it, but she does have fun with it. She understands my wanting her to try "it", but I LOVE my wife and don't want to force her into something she does not want to actually do.

You should probably sort out your personal feelings before letting him know that you know. Eventually you should let him know, and how you feel about it. Good luck.
 
Alexis dear, you should be more concerned with the lack of communication you and your husband have for it seems that this is the true source of your problem -and eventually, both your problems. Get over your state of shock already and get to know eachother again. Life is what you make it.

Wish you all the best.
 
metalore said:
Alexis, what exactly were you shocked by? That your husband was visiting a porn site, that he was visiting an interracial porn site, or that he was visiting a site about men who share their wives with other men?

Did you already know that your husband watches porn? Did you already know that your husband watches interracial porn? (and did he know you know this?)

Shocked by the type of porn. I didn't know that my husband looks at porn, but that doesn't surprise me at all, and I really don't object to it. I know men are visual.
 
MichaelWills said:
Alexis,

You've had plenty of input--some of it very good, some it less so, but it is what you get tossing out any question in a forum.

You've had time to sleep on it, and opportunities to mention it to your hubby, or continue to ignore the 600 pound gorilla sitting in the middle of the room.
Are you less confused than you were?

And how do you plan to handle it?

By the way, I once had had a friend whose very straight laced and devout wife divorced him because she came home from shopping and caught him choking the monkey with a Penthouse magazine at his feet. I would hope you wouldn't let the simple fact your hubby checked out an interracial sex site be anything more than the harmless web surfing that it could be.

I have no problem with him looking at porn sites. My problem is with the thought that he may be getting turned on by the thought of me with another guy, black or white. If he just comes here to read about others, I would have no problem with that.
 
laura-lme said:
Alexis, I still think, at this point, you're reading too much into this. He's not approached you about it or tried to fix you up yet. I think he's building up his fantasies in his mind. Now if he asked you to go play, then you've got some more questions that have to be answered.

Do you always fantasize about sex with your husband or do you think about the hot guy you saw at the gym? So long as you use it for something to get turned on while having sex with your husband I see nothing wrong with it. Right now I see it as nothing worse than thumbing through a Playboy or Playgirl for that matter.

Very good point. I'm sure there are guys who come here either out of curiosity, or as a fantasy. If my husband is one of those, I don't have a problem with it.
 
MichaelWills said:
Alexis,

You've had plenty of input--some of it very good, some it less so, but it is what you get tossing out any question in a forum.

You've had time to sleep on it, and opportunities to mention it to your hubby, or continue to ignore the 600 pound gorilla sitting in the middle of the room.
Are you less confused than you were?

And how do you plan to handle it?

By the way, I once had had a friend whose very straight laced and devout wife divorced him because she came home from shopping and caught him choking the monkey with a Penthouse magazine at his feet. I would hope you wouldn't let the simple fact your hubby checked out an interracial sex site be anything more than the harmless web surfing that it could be.

Also,
That 600 pound gorilla is still just sitting there. If I mention this to him, who knows what that gorilla is capable of doing. So, I'm still confused about how to handle it.
 
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