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The role of her girlfriends in her way to cuck me?

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As you know Linda was on her first business trip last week.
In spite of a very promising introduction (Linda buying her first box of condoms, and packing sexy lingerie) her trip did not turn into anything tangible from a cuckolding standpoint :(
Certainly the fact that she started her period on day one of the trip did not help...

Good news is that yesterday we had some privacy, and I managed to chat a bit with Linda on the topic.

So I found that she spent her spare time with two girls, colleagues of hers, more or less same age, and they became acquainted.
The two (ex) soccer moms are longtime friends, as their kids used to play in the same team.
Both girlfriends were seeking for some kind of revenge towards their husbands, and involved Linda in their gossip against them.
They also asked a lot of questions, entering in Linda’s private life.
So they found that Linda was virgin at wedding, that she never had an extramarital experience (Linda did not mention her spicy story with the two doctors), and that she is quite naïve with men.

Both girlfriends agreed that it was time to reawaken Linda, and they made it a point to make her hatch.
Unfortunately, one of the girls got sick, so (considering that Linda was even on her period) there was very little they could do during the trip.
But on their way back home they promised that they will arrange something in town to “help” Linda hatching.

When Linda told me this story, she seemed to me quite excited by the idea.
I said, next time you hear that one of your friends’ husband is out of town, you shall fake that I am out of town as well, and see what happens.

I hope that I have found two unexpected allies in convincing Linda to cuck me.
I hope they will not hamper the opinion that Linda has of me.
 
GordonPym said:
[My wife Linda's] two (ex) soccer-mom friends are longtime friends... Both girlfriends are seeking some kind of revenge on their husbands, and involved Linda in their gossip against them. They also asked Linda a lot of questions about her private life. They found out she was a virgin when we wed, she has never had extramarital sex (Linda did not mention her spicy story about her two doctors), and she is quite naïve about men. Both girlfriends agreed it is time to reawaken Linda; i.e., they [should] make her "hatch."

This sounds very promising (and that was a nice way to put it). Almost certainly, the best way for your wife to become your cuckoldress will be for her to have friends who cuckold their husbands and encourage your wife to do the same.

GordonPym said:
Unfortunately, one of my wife's girlfriends got sick, and... considering my wife was having her period... there was little they could do during their business trip.

That's OK. Your wife's interactions with her friends were a big step in the right direction.

GordonPym said:
On their way home, my wife's friends promised they will arrange something in town to help her "hatch." When my wife told me this story, she seemed quite excited by the idea.

This too sounds very promising. I have the impression that, with a little help from her friends, your wife will soon make you her cuckold.
 
Custer Laststand said:
[...] I have the impression that, with a little help from her friends, your wife will soon make you her cuckold.
Fingers crossed, Custer! Fingers crossed!!! :)
 
Gordon - just curious - did Linda let her girlfriends know that you "gave her permission"?
Just wondering exactly how far they believe they can take her?

Either way - it's great progress. Stay the course, don't push her but stay encouraging for her.
 
Gordon-

I guess I want to caution you on your expectations. Women talk sex and trash all the time; men just talk about fucking. We talk about how other men would be as lovers and what we wish was different about the sex we have with our husbands/partners. But I don't really recall any of my girl friends encouraging to cheat on my husband (now ex-husband) even when it was clear that we were heading to divorce. They all were much more practical in giving me the names of divorce lawyers, not new lovers! Now guys were quite a bit different and thought that being close to, or newly divorced, would mean I was in heat and couldn't wait for a new sexual partner.

I am sorry, but I have to believe that your wife's friends are more likely to encourage her to leave you than to steer her into a path of serial adultery. The exception may be if they wanted her become part of their sex games and I am not sure how either of you would feel about it.

Just my thoughts, take care.

Sandy
 
SoonToBe said:
Gordon - just curious - did Linda let her girlfriends know that you "gave her permission"?
Just wondering exactly how far they believe they can take her?.
I honestly think that Linda did NOT reveal anything about my cuckold fantasies.
But that is just speculation... I will try to have more details and let you know, but this will need some time.


SoonToBe said:
... don't push her but stay encouraging for her.
It's not so easy to keep nerves :)
 
I hope that Linda is not looking for divorce!

First of all let me thank you, Sandy, for your honest reply.
Honesty, frankness, openness is what I am seeking on this Forum.
In my turn, I try to pay the users of this Forum with the same currency: sincerity.
I must say that I found many friends here who are incline to help sincerely... even though some are less genuine...


SandyWho said:
Gordon-I guess I want to caution you on your expectations.
That is a wise comment!
I think that we guys get often, and too quickly, over excited.
Thank you for keeping our feet on the ground!


SandyWho said:
Women talk sex and trash all the time; men just talk about fucking. We talk about how other men would be as lovers and what we wish was different about the sex we have with our husbands/partners.
I don’t know what women say ;) I know that we guys talk about fucking, indeed.
On the contrary, I believe - but of course I am not certain - that Linda does not have any complaints about me as a husband, and as a lover as well.
It is not my ego who says so, it is because our relationship is based on mutual trust and support, and if Linda has something to blame me about, she knows that I will be there to listen.


SandyWho said:
But I don't really recall any of my girl friends encouraging to cheat on my husband (now ex-husband) even when it was clear that we were heading to divorce.
I don’t believe that they actually encouraged Linda openly to cheat on me.
They said that she needs to “hatch”, and to be more relaxed with men.
I really don’t know what they have in mind...

Last day Linda and I had sex. At one point I suggested her that her girlfriends’ initiative could end up with her having an extramarital affair. (I was a bit more explicit ;))
At my words Linda got so horny that orgasmed immediately.
I let it up to you to draw conclusions...


SandyWho said:
They all were much more practical in giving me the names of divorce lawyers, not new lovers!
I can’t believe that Linda is planning anything similar as divorce.
On the contrary, she told me that she was annoyed, if not upset, by their insistence.
Linda reported that her friends really wanted her to admit that she was not satisfied by her marriage, that it was a huge mistake, that her husband is a pain in the ass, that all husbands are pricks, and so on and so forth. But Linda disagreed firmly.
Personally, I had a similar experience with a few friends of mine (one is my best friend) who were frustrated by their marriage. Nevertheless, they never convinced me that I made a mistake when choosing to marry Linda.
I love her, she loves me, we love our kids, and I cannot see my life without her at my side, both as a friend and as a lover.
I believe that the feeling is reciprocal.
However...
When it comes to “cuckolding” than we both found that the fantasy is very arousing for the two of us (me leading).
It is a much disorienting feeling, of which I have discussed a lot on these pages.
If I truly love Linda, why the hell I am so much sexually excited by the idea that my beloved wife is getting fucked by a stranger? I have no idea...
And, on the other hand, if she loves me so much, why is she turned on by the idea of fucking another man?
I have no idea as well...
What we know is that all seems to show that we are slowly moving to the tipping point after which our relationship will turn into an open one. Very slowly... I hope not too much slowly...


SandyWho said:
Now guys were quite a bit different and thought that being close to, or newly divorced, would mean I was in heat and couldn't wait for a new sexual partner.
I confirm!
And I add: in most cases they don’t know how much far are they from reality :)


SandyWho said:
I am sorry, but I have to believe that your wife's friends are more likely to encourage her to leave you than to steer her into a path of serial adultery.
I hope you are wrong, my friend!
But if you are right, I rely on Lindaìs capability to separate the wheat from the chaff.


SandyWho said:
The exception may be if they wanted her become part of their sex games and I am not sure how either of you would feel about it.
Sandy

I don’t see that as plausible, but I am open to any solution - but divorce ;)

Thank you again Sandy, and hope to see soon more comments of yours
 
Dear Gordon-

I am sorry if I sounded so negative but it is rare to see people in a relationship where they can have openness about their desires. We all play games and tell little lies to protect each others feelings and to preserve our relationships. Sometimes it is as simple telling your boss you were stuck in traffic rather than you were lazy and overslept. Or as complicated as having your husband find a pregnancy test kit and telling him that it is an old one you bought before he got his vasectomy. In your case this teasing tangle of did she or not, and is this real or not, is a wonderful distraction. You are both playing a game of sexual tension which is far more honest a relationship than many couples have.

Sandy
 
Hi Ms. SandyWho,

Thank you for bringing your woman's perspective to this thread. Re.:

SandyWho said:
Gordon- I guess I want to caution you on your expectations. .... [My girl friends] all were much more practical in giving me the names of divorce lawyers, not new lovers! .... I am sorry, but I have to believe your wife's friends are more likely to encourage her to leave you than to steer her into a path of serial adultery. .... —SandyWho

You may be right.

But, GordonPym's wife Ms. Linda being told by her friends that they intend to help her "hatch" after all of them have returned from their business trip sounds... well... pretty specific. I'm not aware of "hatching" being a synonym for "getting divorced." GordonPym would be the best person, though, to give us an interpretation of that word in the country he and his wife live in.

An additional question would seem to be, what did Ms. Linda's friends mean when they told her they wanted to "take revenge" on their husbands? If "taking revenge" meant taking pleasure in fucking other men and they're doing so (perhaps without the knowledge of their husbands), that may suggest they have in mind guiding Ms. Linda in the same direction.

If, on the other hand, Ms. Linda's friends used the phrase "taking revenge" to mean they were making plans to divorce their husbands, then your interpretation may be most likely.

Those are nice photos of yourself and yourself with your black lover, or perhaps one of them, you've been including with your posts.

—Custer
 
Sandy, let me join Custer’s thanks for bringing your woman’s perspective to this discussion.

SandyWho said:
Dear Gordon- I am sorry if I sounded so negative but it is rare to see people in a relationship where they can have openness about their desires.
Don’t worry Sandy. I am well aware that our relationship is something special and I am used that people are surprised by the level of mutual trust and empathy that Linda and I have.
That makes my cuckold fantasies even more difficult to for me to accept and understand.


SandyWho said:
We all play games and tell little lies to protect each others feelings and to preserve our relationships.
To be totally honest, I don’t tell many lies to Linda.
Actually the only “big” one is that I never mentioned that I am active on the Internet to satisfy my sexual fantasies.
I don’t surf porn sites, however.
But I do run a blog for stockings fetishists, I do contribute on forums on cuckold topics, and I do seek for (and publish) sex stories on the same theme.
Linda does suspect it, but we practice the “don’t ask, don’t tell” way.

Whether she tells me lies or not, that is also quite straight forward: she does not lie to me.
Of course this statement is based “only” on 25+ years of mutual trust, and not one occasion in which I caught her lying to me. Which is not a factual evidence, I know... but must have a meaning.


SandyWho said:
In your case this teasing tangle of did she or not, and is this real or not, is a wonderful distraction. You are both playing a game of sexual tension which is far more honest a relationship than many couples have.
Thank you for recognizing it! It makes me even more proud of it.

The reverse is that she honestly told me that she has enough of this game, and if I insist with this cuckold fantasy of mine she will be ****** to leave me.
It is just threatening, it is not serious, but it is a sign I shall not ignore about her evolved feeling against cuckoldry.
 
Thank you Custer, as usual ;)

Custer Laststand said:
[...] GordonPym's wife Ms. Linda being told by her friends that they intend to help her "hatch" after all of them have returned from their business trip sounds... well... pretty specific. I'm not aware of "hatching" being a synonym for "getting divorced." GordonPym would be the best person, though, to give us an interpretation of that word in the country he and his wife live in.
I must apologize with all my readers. I know that my English is very poor, even though I live in the US.
English is my third language, and Linda’s second one, so I hope that you will understand.
At home we use Portuguese or French, and when I make my reports on this forum, I often translate literally what we say.
“To hatch” is to emerge from the egg, we use it as an idiom to say “to grow”, “to get free of bounds” “to become smarter, less naïf”.
Assumed that that is the word that Linda used, but it is NOT the word that her girlfriends used, in this specific circumstance I believe that the meaning has nothing to do with divorce, but is more likely to push her in being a bit more daring and naughty when relating to men.
Which does NOT necessarily imply fucking them!


Custer Laststand said:
An additional question would seem to be, what did Ms. Linda's friends mean when they told her they wanted to "take revenge" on their husbands? If "taking revenge" meant taking pleasure in fucking other men and they're doing so (perhaps without the knowledge of their husbands), that may suggest they have in mind guiding Ms. Linda in the same direction.
Of this I am quite sure: Linda told me that they both have occasional extramarital affairs. As far as I understood, they don’t have “stable” lovers. They just like to cheat, from time to time...


Custer Laststand said:
If, on the other hand, Ms. Linda's friends used the phrase "taking revenge" to mean they were making plans to divorce their husbands, then your interpretation may be most likely.
I am incline to believe that they did not mean “divorcing”

Bad news is that yesterday Linda showed to be annoyed by all this talking and fantasizing about cuckolding.
It has been a cold shower for me, and I believe that I shall be very cautious in the next weeks if I don’t want to spoil everything.
 
Hello Mr. Custer

Custer Laststand said:
Hi Ms. SandyWho,

An additional question would seem to be, what did Ms. Linda's friends mean when they told her they wanted to "take revenge" on their husbands? If "taking revenge" meant taking pleasure in fucking other men and they're doing so (perhaps without the knowledge of their husbands), that may suggest they have in mind guiding Ms. Linda in the same direction.
—Custer

As we know, every situation is different and yes, a "revenge fuck" is quite common and sometime effective but often harmful. But from what Gordon has told us, I am not sure why they would encourage that since it is not apparent that he has been cheating on her. Rather if they are steering her in that direction it is more likely they are "party girls" and just want their friend to to be a loose as they are.

Custer Laststand said:
If, on the other hand, Ms. Linda's friends used the phrase "taking revenge" to mean they were making plans to divorce their husbands, then your interpretation may be most likely.
—Custer

Frankly guys, women are more concerned about money than sex! It is easy to find a guy to sleep with you, much harder to find one who will support you. When a women says she is going for revenge it is likely she is going to take him to the cleaners, not sleep with his brother.

Custer Laststand said:
Those are nice photos of yourself and yourself with your black lover, or perhaps one of them, you've been including with your posts.

—Custer

Thanks, I do post some of my pics here and on DC. Some of the picture are of me, some are composites, and some are from requests. Basically, I like to think of the style as "book cover" art. There is always a story behind the picture.
 
GordonPym said:
Thank you Custer, as usual. ;)

You're welcome...

GordonPym said:
I must apologize to all my readers. I know my English is very poor, even though I live in the US. English is my third language, and Linda’s second one, so I hope that you will understand.
At home we use Portuguese or French, and when I make my reports on this forum, I often translate literally what we say.

Actually, you write well in English. And, sorry about the error. I probably assumed you and your wife live in a country other than the U.S. because you mentioned in some earlier post that English is your third language. If you speak three languages fluently and Linda speaks two, that's very impressive. Relatively few Americans can claim to speak more than one language.

GordonPym said:
I believe the meaning [of "hatching," as used by Linda's woman friends] has nothing to do with divorce, but more likely refers to pushing her toward being a bit more daring and naughty when relating to men. It does not necessarily imply fucking them.

Thanks for the clarification...

GordonPym said:
Of this I am quite sure: Linda told me they both have occasional extramarital affairs. As I understand it, they don’t have stable lovers. Rather, they like to cheat from time to time.

Ah-ha... this satisfies the definition of your wife's friends being cuckoldresses. Their husbands are "men with unfaithful wives." This suggests they may, in fact, have in mind guiding your wife in this direction. It will be especially helpful if they can introduce Linda to a candidate, if only for a one-night stand. Since Linda obviously does not see herself as "that kind of woman," that could go a long way toward circumventing her reluctance to convey the message to other men that she's sexually interested in them.

GordonPym said:
I am inclined to believe that [by "hatching" my wife's friends] did not mean encouraging [my wife] to “divorce” [me].

That's consistent with my interpretation...

GordonPym said:
The bad news is, yesterday Linda was annoyed by all this talking and fantasizing about cuckolding. It was a cold shower for me. I believe [I need to] be very cautious [during the coming] weeks if I don’t want to spoil everything.

I agree. It's necessary to take care to avoid moving too far too fast.

Do you know what kinds of sexual fantasies your wife tends to have? Have you ever encouraged her to talk about them? If so, has she responded by telling you something about her own fantasies even if she was very hesitant?
 
SandyWho said:
[…] a "revenge fuck" is quite common and sometime effective but often harmful.
Could you please explain me what do you mean with "harmful"?
(This question may sound sarcastic, but it is not. I am really interested in the risks of such a behaviour.)


SandyWho said:
[…] from what Gordon has told us, I am not sure why they would encourage that since it is not apparent that he has been cheating on her.
Believe it or not, I never cheated on Linda.
Consider that I spent more than fifteen years on board ships, with many deployments overseas.
I had many many chances to cheat on her, but I never did.

Why are they supposedly pushing Linda to join their lifestyle? I believe that you answered next: "[They] just want their friend to to be a loose as they are"


SandyWho said:
[…] if they are steering her in that direction it is more likely they are "party girls" and just want their friend to to be a loose as they are.
As far as I know, defining them as Party Girls sounds excessive, but it still gives a rough idea of their behavior: indeed it seems that they like "enjoying themselves" away from their husbands' sight.


SandyWho said:
[…]Frankly guys, women are more concerned about money than sex! It is easy to find a guy to sleep with you, much harder to find one who will support you. When a women says she is going for revenge it is likely she is going to take him to the cleaners, not sleep with his brother.
I agree 100%.
But, as you said "every situation is different". In this case both ladies have husbands who are sufficiently rich and wealthy to orient their choice: by divorcing they may loose more than what they gain.
 
Your reply to my "what are your wife's fantasies" question has made her seem much more multi-dimensional, and provides some insight (IMO) into how you might increase the effectiveness of your campaign to convince her of the desirability of dating and fucking other men.

GordonPym said:
What I know is that Linda likes nature and she is turned on by the fantasy of doing it in the water (preferably in the deep Ocean) or in the woods. Unfortunately, both fantasies are totally negative to me. :(

Ah... but you're a man, right? And you've said you're a naval officer accustomed to long deployments at sea, right? That means you've gritted your teeth and done MANY things you've disliked over the years, like following orders from drill instructors who did not treat you with... ahem... great respect in basic training, and following orders from higher-ranking officers you might not have cared much for, and carrying out assignments you disliked in some cases (while showing no signs of that), right?

So, you're obviously capable of doing some things with your wife that she fantasizes about, but you sort of dislike, for purposes of attaining something you strongly want. You can do it!

More specifically, your wife's fantasies about "doing it" in the woods or in a lake or in the ocean suggest that an effective strategy — especially now that it's summer — may be one long-advocated by Son of John: persuade her to take a vacation at a nudist camp in a forested area that includes a lake. Then, take her for an evening walk in the woods, both of you nude, and seduce her and fuck her in the woods while it's getting dark — but it isn't fully dark so there's an exciting risk you'll be discovered. Or, take her for an evening swim, both of you nude, when it's dusk but not fully dark, and seduce her and fuck her in the lake.

Then — while your wife is feeling hot as a result of the above and is anticipating more — keep your eyes open for other nude men who appear interested in fucking her, either by looking or by asking you, perhaps indirectly, if you're amenable to that. Then, without waiting for Linda to make the decision, suggest he or they accompany the two of you to your cabin, where you will conveniently have a bottle of wine (and condoms) on hand to lessen her inhibitions. With your wife and you and one or two other men all socializing in the nude, in the privacy of your cabin over a bottle of wine, the opportunity will be obvious and, I would guess, difficult for Linda to resist if you encourage her.

Your post suggests other potentially-effective strategies as well, but I'll leave off here because I have to go do something else.
 
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Custer Laststand said:
Your reply to my "what are your wife's fantasies" question has made her seem much more multi-dimensional
Multi-dimensional? Is it GOOD, or NOT GOOD? :confused:


Custer Laststand said:
[...] Ah... but you're a man, right? And you've said you're a naval officer accustomed to long deployments at sea, right? That means you've gritted your teeth and done MANY things you've disliked over the years, like following orders from drill instructors who did not treat you with... ahem... great respect in basic training, and following orders from higher-ranking officers you might not have cared much for, and carrying out assignments you disliked in some cases (while showing no signs of that), right?
So, you're obviously capable of doing some things with your wife that she fantasizes about, but you sort of dislike, for purposes of attaining something you strongly want.
You seem to know the environment better than I do! :)
In any case, my answer is: “AYE AYE, SIR!”

Anyhow, do not assume that the simple fact that I do not share Linda’s doing-it-in-the-water and/or doing-it-in-the-wood fantasies has prevented me to offer it to her.
On the contrary, I tried multiple times, with zero results: it seems that Linda is blocked by fear of being spotted by someone... :(
Thinking military, you could always blame me: “I want results, I don't want complaints! If you diddn't succeed it is because you didn’t try it sufficiently hard!”
I repeat: “Aye aye, Sir! I’ll do my best, Sir”


Custer Laststand said:
[...] your wife's fantasies about "doing it" in the woods or in a lake or in the ocean suggest that an effective strategy — especially now that it's summer — may be one long-advocated by Son of John: persuade her to take a vacation at a nudist camp in a forested area that includes a lake [...]
Apparently looks like a good idea...
However, I am pretty sure that Linda will never accept such a vacation :(
Imagine that, in spite we spent many summers on the European beaches, I never convinced Linda to sunbathe top-less, which is very common there, even in places where families go with their kids.

Custer: "I don't like to repeat myself: I want results, I don't want complaints!"
GP: "AYE AYE, SIR!"


Custer Laststand said:
Your post suggests other potentially-effective strategies as well, but I'll leave off here because I have to go do something else.
If/when you have time... I am eager to listen...
 
I met one of the two Lionda's new girlfrinds

Yesterday, at an official charity event, I met one of Linda’s "notorious" new girlfriends.
One of those two gals who made me start this thread.
The leader of the group, I'd say.

I will call her Paula.

Paula is very charming lady, tall, slender, blue eyes, tanned skin.
She was dressed up for the occasion, a black suit, her shirt two inches above knee, and a good four inches black pumps.
Her nylon-clad legs were simply astonishing!
She must have been an incredibly beautiful girl, and she is still beautiful, even though she is not really what I would define as a girl.
Fifty-five? A bit less, may be, but still “combat-ready”, so to speak ;)

We chatted a bit.
Paula’s husband, who I met too, holds a chain of Italian fashion shops in my town and in the state capital.
He is a good looking man, in his mid-sixties/seventies, very well-mannered, with a dazzling white permanent smile.
Paula, who used to work in one of his shops, is now the one in charge of the administration of the whole chain.
She has a deep voice - probably due to many cigarettes smoked in the past - quite masculine, but very sexy indeed.
It is evident that she is accustomed to have leading roles.

@SandyWho: Paula does not look like someone who is willing to divorce. Of course that is just a skin impression, but she rather looks like a lady who wants to take advantage of any opportunity which may arise. Get the money form her rich husband, and get the cock from somebody else. (But that is just speculation, especially the latter statement!)

I was really tempted to let her understand, discretely, that if she wanted to push Linda into the hotwife lifestyle, I would have supported her.
But I was not prepared for the event, and I am a shy guy, so I couldn’t find the right words.
Now I feel that I wasted a priceless opportunity...
 
Gordon-

I agree! I guess the way you had described the situation, I had the impression these were younger, less sophisticated, co-workers of your wife. That said, it sounds like Paula could be a very influential person. I don't think that you need to, or should, approach Paula. If she wants to bring your wife into the lifestyle, she will find a way to bring it about. What you have to do is make sure your wife is comfortable with that decision and I am not sure that your are close to that yet.

I always caution people to be careful what they wish for because the Genie that grants wishes is not a benevolent one! There is a price to pay. You asked me why a "revenge fuck" is quite common and sometime effective but often harmful" . The point being is that hurtful actions often escalate. Men may play macho but their egos are fairly fragile. They do not like the idea of their wife or girlfriend being submissive to another man UNLESS they are in control. In a "revenge fuck" situation, that is clearly not the case. In my experience, it is a rare situation where a couple engaging in "revenge fucks" ever finds a way to resolve their issues.

But getting back to where you are, the question I have for you is simple--"Isn't Linda indulging your fantasies now and is that not enough for you?

Sandy
 
SandyWho said:
[...] I always caution people to be careful what they wish for because the Genie that grants wishes is not a benevolent one!
SandyWho said:
[...] There is a price to pay.
Thank you again Sandy.
I have replied you on a new thread: “Pondering on consequences of fulfilling my fantasy” (it will appear when/if approved by the Moderator)


SandyWho said:
The point being is that ["revenge fucks"] often escalate.
I bet they do!
But in my case it would not be a “revenge fuck”.
Should Linda be doing it with someone else, it would be because I asked her to fulfill my wishes, and she likes doing so - nothing to do with "revenge"..
Isn’t it a different situation?


SandyWho said:
[...]Men may play macho but their egos are fairly fragile.
I usually don’t play macho...
Does it make my ego less fragile? :)


SandyWho said:
[...][Men] do not like the idea of their wife or girlfriend being submissive to another man UNLESS they are in control.
I’m sorry but I disagree!
When Linda told me of her story with The Two Doctors (regardless whether it is fantasy or real) I was turned on especially because she was 100% submitted by the two.
Buy touching her they gained control on her mind: they temporarily turned her into their sex slave - OMG! - And I was totally ******* of anything!!! - OMG!!!**2

But I admit that it would be totally different if that submission was permanent, not just temporary.
Or, even worse, if is she had fallen in love with them!


SandyWho said:
In my experience, it is a rare situation where a couple engaging in "revenge fucks" ever finds a way to resolve their issues.
I couldn’t agree more!


SandyWho said:
But getting back to where you are, the question I have for you is simple--"Isn't Linda indulging your fantasies now and is that not enough for you?”
I am not sure that I interpret your words correctly (English is my third language...)
Let's make a try...

Q: Is Linda indulging in my fantasies?
R: Yes and no. In general terms, yes, but recently she asked me to stop it. It is not the first time it happens, though. I know by experience that I must stay quiet for a while, then I can revive my fantasies, and - to my surprise - Linda will go one little step forward.

Q: Is it enough for you that Linda (just) indulges your fantasies?
R: No, it is not! I am looking forward at that day in which she will dress up and leave me home, heading to goodness-knows-where, and come back with her lingerie and stockings all messy of some stranger’s cum!
Don’t tell me it is twisted! I know it already... :(
 
GordonPym said:
Thank you again Sandy.
I have replied you on a new thread: “Pondering on consequences of fulfilling my fantasy” (it will appear when/if approved by the Moderator)


I bet they do!
But in my case it would not be a “revenge fuck”.
Should Linda be doing it with someone else, it would be because I asked her to fulfill my wishes, and she likes doing so - nothing to do with "revenge"..
Isn’t it a different situation?
([/b]

I look forward to your posting and yes, if she in fulfilling your desires, it is very different.


GordonPym said:
Q: Is Linda indulging in my fantasies?
R: Yes and no. In general terms, yes, but recently she asked me to stop it. It is not the first time it happens, though. I know by experience that I must stay quiet for a while, then I can revive my fantasies, and - to my surprise - Linda will go one little step forward.([/b]

I am curious, is this a step forward that she takes or does she just continue to tantalize you? By that I mean is she really going to enter the lifestyle or is this indulging your fantasies? I would also point out that she could be sleeping with another man but is not willing bring you into the relationship.

GordonPym said:
Q: Is it enough for you that Linda (just) indulges your fantasies?
R: No, it is not! I am looking forward at that day in which she will dress up and leave me home, heading to goodness-knows-where, and come back with her lingerie and stockings all messy of some stranger’s cum!
Don’t tell me it is twisted! I know it already... :(

I must say, I think Linda is a very interesting woman and really wish the best for both of you.
 

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