SAraha, I always watch for your posts. Every time there is something interesting or fun or a major learning. Thanks. I was a little older at college and turned 21 my first year. I was able to legally take the sissy training and a lot of similar vids are on (connected) to this site. I found out thorught the Psyche dept. And they ahd been dieting to give someone the full subliminal and hypo treatment.
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Very true, all of it. Daniel better be careful and really work to show Jen that he really loves her and she's not just some fetish toy. Now that he's unleashed her inner slut she'll soon be out at parties popping X and banging every guy in sight while Daniel sits in his dorm room, jerking off and crying about the huge mistake he's made.
Unless of course, Daniel makes himself worth her time. Before she was just a naive virgin, now that she's had a taste of other (and better) men she'll become disillusioned with him unless he's got what she needs that she can't get out of casual sex: Love, romance and stability.
There is no reason to think that Daniel has to be any less of a lover than Aaron---She can teach him and he can work to become even better than Aaron. Aaron may have a bit of an ego on him after all. But again----none of us know.
BUT---it is time to drive Jen over to Planned Parenthood to get some birth control pills----then there is no worry if she is doing it bareback, and everyone can enjoy it all that more! Daniel could even arrange for some sloppy seconds...
BUT---it is time to drive Jen over to Planned Parenthood to get some birth control pills----then there is no worry if she is doing it bareback, and everyone can enjoy it all that more! Daniel could even arrange for some sloppy seconds...
Indeed Jen does need to seek information on multiple birth control methods including options such as birth control pill, sub-dermal birth control implant "nexplanon", etc. So many options on the market these days. If Jen is truly going to consider taking Aaron bareback in the future beyond this one time she mentioned, I would expect that Aaron would agree to be tested and be exclusive to Jen even if Jen is still seeing Daniel with or without Aaron's knowledge.
Looking forward to seeing were this goes from here since now Daniel's fantasy has become reality.
Looking forward to seeing were this goes from here since now Daniel's fantasy has become reality.
Congratulations Daniel. It's great to see that you and Jen were able to realize your fantasy. Thank you for sharing this!
Since you're well past the month-long 'trial period', does this mean that you're both planning to extend the cuckold play? Is this something that you've discussed?
I just want to chime in here and add that the withdrawal method is known for being relatively ineffective over the long term, compared with other options, because of mistakes by the guy, etc. If either party wishes to continue with any 'bareback' intercourse, I'd urge you to talk to Jen about taking appropriate precautions (i.e IUD or the Pill). It would be a real shame to have everyone's day ruined by an unplanned pregnancy.
Since you're well past the month-long 'trial period', does this mean that you're both planning to extend the cuckold play? Is this something that you've discussed?
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I just want to chime in here and add that the withdrawal method is known for being relatively ineffective over the long term, compared with other options, because of mistakes by the guy, etc. If either party wishes to continue with any 'bareback' intercourse, I'd urge you to talk to Jen about taking appropriate precautions (i.e IUD or the Pill). It would be a real shame to have everyone's day ruined by an unplanned pregnancy.
Your writings say you want Jen as your wife. Your actions say otherwise.
Which do you want the most? Jen being your own personal cuck porn star? Or Jen as your partner for life?
If you want the former most, you will get neither. If you want the latter most, you might get both.
You are now at what may be your last chance to decide.
Jen is the hero in this adventure. She carries the weight of taking action, of shouldering the good girl/bad girl conflict resolution, of bending social norms, of being marked as a slut, and trying to satisfy both Aaron and you.. All while you make pleas and demands.
Soon Jen will be back sharing classes and bedtime with Aaron. Her girlfriends will note the stress you are causing her. They will chant "Drop Dan, Keep Aaron." Is this what you want?
If you want Jen for much longer, I repeat my broken record. Put Jen's needs and wants ahead of yours.
Per your writings apparently you have not yet given Jen an orgasm. It is time for you to do so, repeatedly.
Which do you want the most? Jen being your own personal cuck porn star? Or Jen as your partner for life?
If you want the former most, you will get neither. If you want the latter most, you might get both.
You are now at what may be your last chance to decide.
Jen is the hero in this adventure. She carries the weight of taking action, of shouldering the good girl/bad girl conflict resolution, of bending social norms, of being marked as a slut, and trying to satisfy both Aaron and you.. All while you make pleas and demands.
Soon Jen will be back sharing classes and bedtime with Aaron. Her girlfriends will note the stress you are causing her. They will chant "Drop Dan, Keep Aaron." Is this what you want?
If you want Jen for much longer, I repeat my broken record. Put Jen's needs and wants ahead of yours.
Per your writings apparently you have not yet given Jen an orgasm. It is time for you to do so, repeatedly.
George, you seem to have a relapse of morbid fear of what could go wrong.
Jen/Daniel are in charge of the ship, let some water go under the bridge for a few months, and see what happens.
Aaron could yet progress onto a girlfriend he doesn't have to share - or he may develop a taste/addiction for "sharing".
Girls who date a number of boys are not sluts - they are just looking for Mr Right, and may have to kiss a number of frogs to find a Prince.
Jen's mother agrees that it would be a good thing for Jen to date a number of guys before marriage.
Jen/Daniel are in charge of the ship, let some water go under the bridge for a few months, and see what happens.
Aaron could yet progress onto a girlfriend he doesn't have to share - or he may develop a taste/addiction for "sharing".
Girls who date a number of boys are not sluts - they are just looking for Mr Right, and may have to kiss a number of frogs to find a Prince.
Jen's mother agrees that it would be a good thing for Jen to date a number of guys before marriage.
A young man at age 18 can want a lot of things, but he has to finish his education and get a job before he can ask a girl to marry him.
There are plenty of examples of the girl next door moving on to other blokes, but after a few years, coming back to marry the boy next door, because they became dissillusioned with the artificial world of dating phony men.
There are plenty of examples of the girl next door moving on to other blokes, but after a few years, coming back to marry the boy next door, because they became dissillusioned with the artificial world of dating phony men.
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Daniel is going to need to become proficient with giving Jen great oral and find ways to continue to develop there intimacy even if and while she is seeing Aaron. As George indicated above, if you are seeking Jen as your partner for life she needs to know that is what you want and desire. You have opened up Jen to the possibility of being able to be connected to both guys at the same time. This is something that you can never truly take back and you much live with the choices that you have made. George is correct in saying that you much put ALL of Jens needs, desires and wants before your own. She must be the center of your world and you need to understand that there are times were she will want time with you, times were she will want time with Aaron and do not push her for details of that time she spends with Aaron, she will share than with you as she feel comfortable.
Daniel – as always Sarah also has many good point.
You and Jen are young, you both do need to complete your college level education and acquire jobs within your field. I would agree with Sarah that you both should wait for marriage until your both out of school as so much can change between now and then. That is not to say that you cannot ask her to marry you (engagement) with a undefined date in the future for marriage. I married my first wife when I was just a little older then you although what is different is that I was her first, she was not my first sexually speaking. She did have sex with other guys after she gave me her virginity, we did get married young and yes she continued to sleep with other men until the day we divorced. For those that are thinking it, no we did not get a divorce because of the lifestyle choice, our reasons were more specifically that we did not get married for the right reasons. The sexual side was NEVER the issue, it was issues outside of the bedroom. She continued to share her sexual exploits with me well into her second marriage and I was the one that introduced her to her second husband. To this day we have remained friends. My second wife was a woman that I knew from my early years, someone that I had also dated and she knew of my exploits with my first wife so my second wife picked up right where my first wife left off. Someday I will post more about all that on its own thread as not to highjack yours. So I can related to what Sarah has said about the girl next door.
Something you should always remember, Sarah pointed out that you and Jen are in charge of this journey and I am sure we all will be looking forward to following your updates as you continue to take this journey with Jen. You and Jen will be able to discuss the lifestyle much more openly about how each of you feel about it as time goes by. I would recommend that you look at this in the short term and what the relationship between you and Jen could be in the long term, is this a lifestyle that you both would like to have up to and/or even after marriage if you both marry each other post college.
As far as Aaron or other men, not every guy out there is open to this type of arrangement/relationship while on the flip side there are some that would find it ideal.
I would think that it was much easier for Jen to take the big step once she felt comfortable following her talk with her mom, knowing that her mother agreed that it would be a good thing for Jen to date a number of guys before getting married to you or someone else.
Enjoy the journey, you may also want to start a new thread on the forum now that you are into the next phase of the fantasy/reality.
You and Jen are young, you both do need to complete your college level education and acquire jobs within your field. I would agree with Sarah that you both should wait for marriage until your both out of school as so much can change between now and then. That is not to say that you cannot ask her to marry you (engagement) with a undefined date in the future for marriage. I married my first wife when I was just a little older then you although what is different is that I was her first, she was not my first sexually speaking. She did have sex with other guys after she gave me her virginity, we did get married young and yes she continued to sleep with other men until the day we divorced. For those that are thinking it, no we did not get a divorce because of the lifestyle choice, our reasons were more specifically that we did not get married for the right reasons. The sexual side was NEVER the issue, it was issues outside of the bedroom. She continued to share her sexual exploits with me well into her second marriage and I was the one that introduced her to her second husband. To this day we have remained friends. My second wife was a woman that I knew from my early years, someone that I had also dated and she knew of my exploits with my first wife so my second wife picked up right where my first wife left off. Someday I will post more about all that on its own thread as not to highjack yours. So I can related to what Sarah has said about the girl next door.
Something you should always remember, Sarah pointed out that you and Jen are in charge of this journey and I am sure we all will be looking forward to following your updates as you continue to take this journey with Jen. You and Jen will be able to discuss the lifestyle much more openly about how each of you feel about it as time goes by. I would recommend that you look at this in the short term and what the relationship between you and Jen could be in the long term, is this a lifestyle that you both would like to have up to and/or even after marriage if you both marry each other post college.
As far as Aaron or other men, not every guy out there is open to this type of arrangement/relationship while on the flip side there are some that would find it ideal.
I would think that it was much easier for Jen to take the big step once she felt comfortable following her talk with her mom, knowing that her mother agreed that it would be a good thing for Jen to date a number of guys before getting married to you or someone else.
Enjoy the journey, you may also want to start a new thread on the forum now that you are into the next phase of the fantasy/reality.
Saraha, I expect you will agree having sex with more than one guy does not make a slut. In my experience screwing two guys on alternate days does constute slutiness among most college attending groups of girls. But, being considered a slut contains both disapproval and 'Gee, I wish I had the guts to do that' elements.
Whatever, Jen is the one dealing with it. And she may blame Daniel for the trouble.
Whatever, Jen is the one dealing with it. And she may blame Daniel for the trouble.
Some people will be oppose to this post but here we go. Today Jen(and i) chatted with that douchebag guy from our last bust trip. He have messaged her before but she blocked him.
Jen sent hi to him and in few seconds his reply came and he asked is Jen was in town and want to hookup. Jen told him she is in town but does not want to hookup. She was bored so she messaged him. He referred to her as babe and told her if she will meet him he can change her mind about him. Jen messaged him to tell her about him.
He told her his friends calls him Mike and is 19 year old. And he is a musician. Jen asked what he plays. He told her he is plays drums and sometimes guitar but rt now he was looking for a gig. He also told her that college is not his shit. He is completely different then me and Arron. I don’t like his but Jen talking to him made me hot. I was pressing jens boobs while she was typing message to him.
Then Jen told him a bit about her. I told Jen to tell him that she is virgin that’s why she cant hookup with him. He told Jen he could easily fix that little problem. He told her maybe they can meet nothing more in a public place and if she don’t like him she can leave. Jen looked at me and I kissed her neck she told him she will think about it.
I told jen to mention she like his pic. His pic was him showing off his tattoo on the side of his six pack. He told her if she likes it he can show her his other tattoos. He then sent his a pic wearing only underwear. He have a lightweight body builder body but kind of unnatural. his chest and arms have many tattoos. And he had a large bulge in his underwear and when we zoomed we could see the outline of his semi erect penis.
Jen told me she does not like tattoos but when I pressed her breast her nipple we erect and she was totally aroused. He told her “u saw mine now show yours”. Jen told him she cant sent her pic. He told her come-on she cant leave him high and dry at least show her boobs. And he sent his penis pic to her. Jen and I was shocked that he sent his pic. It was erect and had lot of veins. I removed her shirt and told her she can sent one pic.
She took a selfie wearing bra and sent to him. He said she is HOT but I want to see whats underneath. This all to much for me and I leaked in my pants. I did not came but kind off cummed I don’t know what happened. Jen was rubbing her pussy through her jeans with her other hand. She told him she got to go and kept her mobile on bedside and begin to kiss me.
We got naked and I fucked her using condom. It was the best sex is ever had (lol out of two times) It was so hot I cant believe it. After having sex we saw few messages from him he was angry that she left him high and dry but told her they should meet just to talk tomorrow. Jen replied she will think about it.
We still have not decided if we want to meet him or not
we will not meet him most probably.
Jen sent hi to him and in few seconds his reply came and he asked is Jen was in town and want to hookup. Jen told him she is in town but does not want to hookup. She was bored so she messaged him. He referred to her as babe and told her if she will meet him he can change her mind about him. Jen messaged him to tell her about him.
He told her his friends calls him Mike and is 19 year old. And he is a musician. Jen asked what he plays. He told her he is plays drums and sometimes guitar but rt now he was looking for a gig. He also told her that college is not his shit. He is completely different then me and Arron. I don’t like his but Jen talking to him made me hot. I was pressing jens boobs while she was typing message to him.
Then Jen told him a bit about her. I told Jen to tell him that she is virgin that’s why she cant hookup with him. He told Jen he could easily fix that little problem. He told her maybe they can meet nothing more in a public place and if she don’t like him she can leave. Jen looked at me and I kissed her neck she told him she will think about it.
I told jen to mention she like his pic. His pic was him showing off his tattoo on the side of his six pack. He told her if she likes it he can show her his other tattoos. He then sent his a pic wearing only underwear. He have a lightweight body builder body but kind of unnatural. his chest and arms have many tattoos. And he had a large bulge in his underwear and when we zoomed we could see the outline of his semi erect penis.
Jen told me she does not like tattoos but when I pressed her breast her nipple we erect and she was totally aroused. He told her “u saw mine now show yours”. Jen told him she cant sent her pic. He told her come-on she cant leave him high and dry at least show her boobs. And he sent his penis pic to her. Jen and I was shocked that he sent his pic. It was erect and had lot of veins. I removed her shirt and told her she can sent one pic.
She took a selfie wearing bra and sent to him. He said she is HOT but I want to see whats underneath. This all to much for me and I leaked in my pants. I did not came but kind off cummed I don’t know what happened. Jen was rubbing her pussy through her jeans with her other hand. She told him she got to go and kept her mobile on bedside and begin to kiss me.
We got naked and I fucked her using condom. It was the best sex is ever had (lol out of two times) It was so hot I cant believe it. After having sex we saw few messages from him he was angry that she left him high and dry but told her they should meet just to talk tomorrow. Jen replied she will think about it.
We still have not decided if we want to meet him or not
we will not meet him most probably.
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Daniel97 said:
I was thinking about the train guy with tattoos only yesterday, wondering if he had messaged Jen or not.
Jen sounds as though she would be willing to meet him if Daniel encourages her to, but there is, obviously, a high risk of STD's if he has been sleeping around (and he probably has) - this could infect all three (Jen, Daniel and Aaron).
If Jen does meet him on her own, he will talk her panties off easily, give her a good fucking, and want (and get) regular sex thereafter.
He is fairly agressive, and will insist that Jen dump her existing boyfriend (Aaron). He does not know yet that Dan is also Jen's boyfriend.
Even if Daniel goes along to the meeting as well, he won't be able to stop the guy having his way with Jen - this was obvious on the train when the guy was hitting on Jen. Daniel was frightened of his muscles.
The good thing about all this is that Jen is willing to kiss more frogs, which meet Daniel's goals of Jen not sticking exclusively to Aaron during the next few years.
The train guy will be thinking he is in for a chance now that Jen has sent a selfie photo with her top off, and bra showing. He is going to keep texting until Jen says, "yes" to a meeting.
If he finds out about the cuckolding, the train guy might tie Daniel up while he fucks Jen.
I doubt the train guy will agree to health checks, so Dan will have to consider whether he wants Aaron to be ******* to health risks, even if he is not concerned about himself.
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Daniel,
I do not think people will outright oppose your post from earlier today. While Aaron could/would be a friend with benefits (FwB) for Jen while she is in college for what could be regular encounters, this is something that many women would find enjoyable and in some cases even preferred. Yes there are other women that would prefer more of a one-night stand scenario while some women in this category tend to have a rule for no more than 1 to 3 hook-ups with the same guy. With that said, every woman is different and their preferences also can change over time.
As far as contacting Mike (douchebag) from the bus/bus_stop; you mentioned that she was board so she messaged him, was it your idea or Jen’s to contact him via text? It would seem that Jen and Mike exchanged some information about each other, some limited images and I am assuming that Mike did not know that you were there with Jen as party to the exchange. As you noted, Mark does seem like he would be completely different type of guy than Aaron is. As Sarah noted, Mike seems to be fairly aggressive in his approach towards Jen, confident to boarder line cocky of sorts. Now that she has been with Aaron which has taken her virginity as you desired and she has also been with you she will likely be much more open to experiencing someone like Mike if not Mike given the chance.
I think Sarah said it well “Jen sounds as though she would be willing to meet him if Daniel encourages her to, but there is, obviously, a high risk of STD's if he has been sleeping around (and he probably has) - this could infect all three (Jen, Daniel and Aaron).” and “If he finds out about the cuckolding, the train guy might tie Daniel up while he fucks Jen.” There is something to be said about your partner being with another man that knows clearly that you’re a cuckold and is ok with that as part of the arrangement.
So what do Jen want? Would she prefer Aaron and you only? Would she prefer to play the field with possibly a regular guy and some occasion one-nighters? Would she prefer you only? This is indeed a conversation that you should have with Jen in the near future as she has had an opportunity to let what has recently happened set in.
As to Mike, if he would seriously like a shot at Jen and if he believes that she is still a virgin, she should insist on a health check for STD, etc and if he really wants her, he will do it. If he will not do it, then I would move on without a second thought.
Was interesting how you and Jen for the most part turned her texting with Mike into mutual foreplay of sorts leading up to you fucking her with your condom covered penis. So I take it that Aaron has been the only cock that she has had bare inside of her pussy. Something you will likely be denied for some time to come.
I do not think people will outright oppose your post from earlier today. While Aaron could/would be a friend with benefits (FwB) for Jen while she is in college for what could be regular encounters, this is something that many women would find enjoyable and in some cases even preferred. Yes there are other women that would prefer more of a one-night stand scenario while some women in this category tend to have a rule for no more than 1 to 3 hook-ups with the same guy. With that said, every woman is different and their preferences also can change over time.
As far as contacting Mike (douchebag) from the bus/bus_stop; you mentioned that she was board so she messaged him, was it your idea or Jen’s to contact him via text? It would seem that Jen and Mike exchanged some information about each other, some limited images and I am assuming that Mike did not know that you were there with Jen as party to the exchange. As you noted, Mark does seem like he would be completely different type of guy than Aaron is. As Sarah noted, Mike seems to be fairly aggressive in his approach towards Jen, confident to boarder line cocky of sorts. Now that she has been with Aaron which has taken her virginity as you desired and she has also been with you she will likely be much more open to experiencing someone like Mike if not Mike given the chance.
I think Sarah said it well “Jen sounds as though she would be willing to meet him if Daniel encourages her to, but there is, obviously, a high risk of STD's if he has been sleeping around (and he probably has) - this could infect all three (Jen, Daniel and Aaron).” and “If he finds out about the cuckolding, the train guy might tie Daniel up while he fucks Jen.” There is something to be said about your partner being with another man that knows clearly that you’re a cuckold and is ok with that as part of the arrangement.
So what do Jen want? Would she prefer Aaron and you only? Would she prefer to play the field with possibly a regular guy and some occasion one-nighters? Would she prefer you only? This is indeed a conversation that you should have with Jen in the near future as she has had an opportunity to let what has recently happened set in.
As to Mike, if he would seriously like a shot at Jen and if he believes that she is still a virgin, she should insist on a health check for STD, etc and if he really wants her, he will do it. If he will not do it, then I would move on without a second thought.
Was interesting how you and Jen for the most part turned her texting with Mike into mutual foreplay of sorts leading up to you fucking her with your condom covered penis. So I take it that Aaron has been the only cock that she has had bare inside of her pussy. Something you will likely be denied for some time to come.
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