Confused Cuck...
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Vega, I get what you're saying, but read his posts, things are not as dire as you think.
Doc wrote:
He has wanted to be a cuck for years. This is what he wants. He has a small penis, he can't satisfy his wife. He likes her in control. He likes her fucking other men. Fantasizing about that stuff is easy and incredibly erotic. It becomes difficult when you really start living it. He is having a hard time dealing with the realities of a real man fucking his wife (particularly since the man is his friend).
His wife needs Bobby to be sexually fulfilled, Doc needs Bobby to take care of her sexually to save their marriage. If Doc didn't like the idea, I doubt, seriously, that he would be getting hard listening to his wife talking about it. His orgasm actually is a sign that he agrees with the arrangement. He needs to stop stressing over the reality of the situation. Is it better that he spend the rest of his life fantasizing about this stuff and never really experiencing it? Plus, I think he knows (from what he wrote) that while his wife loves him, she will not stay with him unless she is allowed to have a lover. Period. In this instance, the man of her choice is Bobby.
He put his foot down, no more weird stuff in front of the kids. She agreed. End of story, end of worry about the kids. If the kids are younger, I can tell you from experience that if they fall asleep around 9:30, they'll sleep soundly through the night without waking up. Bobby and the wife stay in separate rooms, they watch the affection in front of the kids, they keep things quiet. As I said, if it was me, I'd get Bobby an apartment, but, that's up to Doc. He isn't going to let his kids be psychologically harmed.
Of course, he's entertaining the possibility. It's his nature. I'm sure he was rock hard thinking about writing that letter. He just needs to let his apprehension go and write the damn thing. Period. He wants to be their bitch, he wants his friend fucking her, he wants his wife fucking his friend. I'm sure, somewhere, he probably has a fantasy about sucking his friend off. Enough with the worrying, enough with the thinking, just do it, I say, or he'll spend the rest of his life fantasizing and wondering "what if?"
Vega, his fantasies aren't going to disappear. He has a cuck mindset. It turns him on to have his wife fucked by a good lover. He either needs to continue therapy and try and get rid of the fantasies or indulge in them and see if this is what he really wants. If he doesn't, even if this situation doesn't overwhelm him, then the next one will (and there will be a next one).
His kids are not at risk, according to Doc. And, let's face it, he's not going to be replaced. He is the father, nothing she can do, legally or otherwise, can destroy that. I would assume he would be strong enough to act in the best interest of his children if they (or his fatherhood) were either slightly threatened.
Doc wrote:
He has wanted to be a cuck for years. This is what he wants. He has a small penis, he can't satisfy his wife. He likes her in control. He likes her fucking other men. Fantasizing about that stuff is easy and incredibly erotic. It becomes difficult when you really start living it. He is having a hard time dealing with the realities of a real man fucking his wife (particularly since the man is his friend).
His wife needs Bobby to be sexually fulfilled, Doc needs Bobby to take care of her sexually to save their marriage. If Doc didn't like the idea, I doubt, seriously, that he would be getting hard listening to his wife talking about it. His orgasm actually is a sign that he agrees with the arrangement. He needs to stop stressing over the reality of the situation. Is it better that he spend the rest of his life fantasizing about this stuff and never really experiencing it? Plus, I think he knows (from what he wrote) that while his wife loves him, she will not stay with him unless she is allowed to have a lover. Period. In this instance, the man of her choice is Bobby.
He put his foot down, no more weird stuff in front of the kids. She agreed. End of story, end of worry about the kids. If the kids are younger, I can tell you from experience that if they fall asleep around 9:30, they'll sleep soundly through the night without waking up. Bobby and the wife stay in separate rooms, they watch the affection in front of the kids, they keep things quiet. As I said, if it was me, I'd get Bobby an apartment, but, that's up to Doc. He isn't going to let his kids be psychologically harmed.
Of course, he's entertaining the possibility. It's his nature. I'm sure he was rock hard thinking about writing that letter. He just needs to let his apprehension go and write the damn thing. Period. He wants to be their bitch, he wants his friend fucking her, he wants his wife fucking his friend. I'm sure, somewhere, he probably has a fantasy about sucking his friend off. Enough with the worrying, enough with the thinking, just do it, I say, or he'll spend the rest of his life fantasizing and wondering "what if?"
Vega, his fantasies aren't going to disappear. He has a cuck mindset. It turns him on to have his wife fucked by a good lover. He either needs to continue therapy and try and get rid of the fantasies or indulge in them and see if this is what he really wants. If he doesn't, even if this situation doesn't overwhelm him, then the next one will (and there will be a next one).
His kids are not at risk, according to Doc. And, let's face it, he's not going to be replaced. He is the father, nothing she can do, legally or otherwise, can destroy that. I would assume he would be strong enough to act in the best interest of his children if they (or his fatherhood) were either slightly threatened.
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babyruthiezhubby
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You deserve everything you get but your kids don't. Be a fucking man for once. Protect your children or you will fuck them up for life. Throw this mother fucker out of your house for good and divorce this bitch who cares nothing about you or the children. Forget this cuckold bullshit and be a father. family comes first.
Hey everyone, sorry I have been incommunicado. I have been traveling and recently got smacked with the influenza, icky! I'm just now getting back on my feet. Unfortunately, I cannot respond to every comment that has been made since my last reply, just too much going on! However, I will try to respond in a general way.
First off, I'm not an MD, I have a Ph.D in environmental sociology. Which means, I work a lot for about half of what a well paid physician earns. So as Kevin suggested, getting an additional apartment for Bobby is outside my means.
Second, I want to clarify that its not like my wife and Bobby have been fucking in front of my children, making out or doing anything other than hugging, or a peck on the cheek. We have never directly ******* my children to any of our lifestyle, and I apologize if my post intimated as such. The only issues that arose to give me serious concern was the one night Bobby stayed in my bed and the night they made out under the mistletoe.
As I stated the primary problem was "me" knowing what is happening behind closed doors and then seeing them together during the day. I know, I am hyper-sensitive to everything that is going on. So for my own peace of mind, and to ensure that nothing truly out of the ordinary develops, I had to make a stand regarding them (my kids), before anything too intense emerged that might affect them.
As far as having another man live in my house, this is not a new occurrence. The sexual relationship that Kristi has with our "roommate" is new of course, but having an extra body in the house is not something strange or out of the blue for my kids. We have often let friends stay for extended periods of times, who have for one reason or another fell on hard times. And as far as that goes, Bobby has been another roommate, who happens to spend time with them, and who they have known since they can remember. Additionally, as it was already mentioned, my kids are in elementary school an are often in bed by 9-930PM and the DO sleep soundly through the night.
Bobby and Kristi's fucking keeps "ME" up at night because our room and the guest room are downstairs and divided by a thin wall. Plus, how many cucks actually sleep when they know that their woman is getting taken care of?What has bothered me is that I know what is really going on, and that Kristi has allowed her lust to cloud her judgment as to how far things should go with respect to our lifestyle, and the degree to which it spills over into our day-to-day living.
And finally the last thing that has bothered me, which I failed to mention in my original post is that it is nearly impossible to have a private conversation with my wife in my own house and I'll be damned if that continues. I will not be reduced to conversing with her via text while standing in the same room.
Now as far as the whole discussion of replacement and love between Kristi and I, I know she loves me. I am not in doubt about that. I know she doesn't love Bobby the same way she loves me. She has repeatedly told me that if it hadn't been for her getting pregnant this summer, Bobby would be just another cock to her. Additionally, he is my friend and she gives him a pass on a lot of things that would otherwise drive her insane. Kristi is not one to put up with people's bullshit, especially inaction and shirking one's responsibilities. He already has a daughter from a previous relationship and can barely keep up with his child support and this infuriates Kristi.
Of course, when she has a 10 inch cock as thick as my forearm shoved in her pussy twice a day (or more) then she tends to overlook a lot of bullshit, but even then she has kicked many men to the curb over the years. Because when the novelty of the sex wears off she realizes she is left with a fat cock and not much else.
And even though I'm often filled with doubt due the emotional nature of this lifestyle, she has proven again and again that when its all said and done, she belongs to me. Even when I thought I lost her, she came back.
And just the other night we were laying bed before I was to take off on this trip, she told me that I don't need to be worried. That while she knows the cuckold fantasy turns me on, making it a reality for her has been the greatest sign of commitment and love that she could have ever imagined. She apologized for getting carried away with Bobby, and again, agreed that if he does come back, he would have to be in his own room, have a job and give her and I space to have our life without him.
Then she told me that, when she says she loves Bobby, she means she loves his sex and the way he makes her feel, but as far as anything beyond that he is not the man I am. He is a 30 yo boy who is still trying to avoid the whole growing up thing, and when it comes to a real mate, that is a total turn off to her. And then she told me something she has never said before. She said that it isn't all about the sex, she likes making me a cuck, she likes the control, she likes how I go out of my way to please her. She likes the WHOLE package, if it was all about the sex, she would have left years ago, but its not. To her, we have found a way for her to be sexually satisfied in way that also makes me hot, and that her commitment is first and foremost to her cuck, to her husband. She went on to remind me that Bobby will leave one day, and then someone else will come along, but what makes it work is that it is her and I.
However, she reiterated that the sex is a need for her that I can't fulfill and that I need to understand that this is for real. She is tired of me ignoring this fact, and that she threatened to leave in order for me to realize how serious this is for her, for me, and our family.
My back and forth over the years has caused so much stress and hurt for her that she is done playing those games, done with me controlling, done with my fantasies. This is about her needs, and thank god the man she loves is (mostly) willing to accept this, and love her enough to allow her to have her needs fulfilled by another. She went on to tell me that she ignored her sexual needs for years and resigned her self to a life of frustration as a "good wife" but I opened the door (I begged her) to this lifestyle, and once she got a true sense of what she was living without, she realized that she couldn't go back.
But it has taken her 9 years to wrestle with her own social hang ups about what a proper marriage is supposed to be, and the contradictions of her feelings and needs; she is way ahead of me on that one. And now, she has grown up to realize that life is too short, that she wants me as her husband, she wants to grow old with me, refuses to be like our parents, but only sees this working if we are on the same page about what is really going on here.
Anyway, I have some other things to post, but I need to pause for now and I'll come back shortly. But one last thing, Kevin, you have me pegged pretty damn good. Oh, and I'll get to the whole letter thing too.
First off, I'm not an MD, I have a Ph.D in environmental sociology. Which means, I work a lot for about half of what a well paid physician earns. So as Kevin suggested, getting an additional apartment for Bobby is outside my means.
Second, I want to clarify that its not like my wife and Bobby have been fucking in front of my children, making out or doing anything other than hugging, or a peck on the cheek. We have never directly ******* my children to any of our lifestyle, and I apologize if my post intimated as such. The only issues that arose to give me serious concern was the one night Bobby stayed in my bed and the night they made out under the mistletoe.
As I stated the primary problem was "me" knowing what is happening behind closed doors and then seeing them together during the day. I know, I am hyper-sensitive to everything that is going on. So for my own peace of mind, and to ensure that nothing truly out of the ordinary develops, I had to make a stand regarding them (my kids), before anything too intense emerged that might affect them.
As far as having another man live in my house, this is not a new occurrence. The sexual relationship that Kristi has with our "roommate" is new of course, but having an extra body in the house is not something strange or out of the blue for my kids. We have often let friends stay for extended periods of times, who have for one reason or another fell on hard times. And as far as that goes, Bobby has been another roommate, who happens to spend time with them, and who they have known since they can remember. Additionally, as it was already mentioned, my kids are in elementary school an are often in bed by 9-930PM and the DO sleep soundly through the night.
Bobby and Kristi's fucking keeps "ME" up at night because our room and the guest room are downstairs and divided by a thin wall. Plus, how many cucks actually sleep when they know that their woman is getting taken care of?What has bothered me is that I know what is really going on, and that Kristi has allowed her lust to cloud her judgment as to how far things should go with respect to our lifestyle, and the degree to which it spills over into our day-to-day living.
And finally the last thing that has bothered me, which I failed to mention in my original post is that it is nearly impossible to have a private conversation with my wife in my own house and I'll be damned if that continues. I will not be reduced to conversing with her via text while standing in the same room.
Now as far as the whole discussion of replacement and love between Kristi and I, I know she loves me. I am not in doubt about that. I know she doesn't love Bobby the same way she loves me. She has repeatedly told me that if it hadn't been for her getting pregnant this summer, Bobby would be just another cock to her. Additionally, he is my friend and she gives him a pass on a lot of things that would otherwise drive her insane. Kristi is not one to put up with people's bullshit, especially inaction and shirking one's responsibilities. He already has a daughter from a previous relationship and can barely keep up with his child support and this infuriates Kristi.
Of course, when she has a 10 inch cock as thick as my forearm shoved in her pussy twice a day (or more) then she tends to overlook a lot of bullshit, but even then she has kicked many men to the curb over the years. Because when the novelty of the sex wears off she realizes she is left with a fat cock and not much else.
And even though I'm often filled with doubt due the emotional nature of this lifestyle, she has proven again and again that when its all said and done, she belongs to me. Even when I thought I lost her, she came back.
And just the other night we were laying bed before I was to take off on this trip, she told me that I don't need to be worried. That while she knows the cuckold fantasy turns me on, making it a reality for her has been the greatest sign of commitment and love that she could have ever imagined. She apologized for getting carried away with Bobby, and again, agreed that if he does come back, he would have to be in his own room, have a job and give her and I space to have our life without him.
Then she told me that, when she says she loves Bobby, she means she loves his sex and the way he makes her feel, but as far as anything beyond that he is not the man I am. He is a 30 yo boy who is still trying to avoid the whole growing up thing, and when it comes to a real mate, that is a total turn off to her. And then she told me something she has never said before. She said that it isn't all about the sex, she likes making me a cuck, she likes the control, she likes how I go out of my way to please her. She likes the WHOLE package, if it was all about the sex, she would have left years ago, but its not. To her, we have found a way for her to be sexually satisfied in way that also makes me hot, and that her commitment is first and foremost to her cuck, to her husband. She went on to remind me that Bobby will leave one day, and then someone else will come along, but what makes it work is that it is her and I.
However, she reiterated that the sex is a need for her that I can't fulfill and that I need to understand that this is for real. She is tired of me ignoring this fact, and that she threatened to leave in order for me to realize how serious this is for her, for me, and our family.
My back and forth over the years has caused so much stress and hurt for her that she is done playing those games, done with me controlling, done with my fantasies. This is about her needs, and thank god the man she loves is (mostly) willing to accept this, and love her enough to allow her to have her needs fulfilled by another. She went on to tell me that she ignored her sexual needs for years and resigned her self to a life of frustration as a "good wife" but I opened the door (I begged her) to this lifestyle, and once she got a true sense of what she was living without, she realized that she couldn't go back.
But it has taken her 9 years to wrestle with her own social hang ups about what a proper marriage is supposed to be, and the contradictions of her feelings and needs; she is way ahead of me on that one. And now, she has grown up to realize that life is too short, that she wants me as her husband, she wants to grow old with me, refuses to be like our parents, but only sees this working if we are on the same page about what is really going on here.
Anyway, I have some other things to post, but I need to pause for now and I'll come back shortly. But one last thing, Kevin, you have me pegged pretty damn good. Oh, and I'll get to the whole letter thing too.
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okdeacon
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I will say you two are making real sense here. Now you two enjoy each other and dont sweat the small shit. Let her know she can have the 10" dick and any more she wants and that you do like her fucking other men. Looks like smooth sailing for all of you and some very happy men lucky enough to have big cocks. I for one like the way she talked to you she sounds very intelligent and like she knows the lay of the land. Best Wishes. okdeacon
I will say you two are making real sense here. Now you two enjoy each other and dont sweat the small shit. Let her know she can have the 10" dick and any more she wants and that you do like her fucking other men. Looks like smooth sailing for all of you and some very happy men lucky enough to have big cocks. I for one like the way she talked to you she sounds very intelligent and like she knows the lay of the land. Best Wishes. okdeacon
Well, I wanted to give everyone a quick update. So, I wrote Kristi's letter. Of course I modified it to some extent, but nevertheless I admitted my place and my shortcomings to both her and Bobby. That was last week, and Kristi has been like a giddy kid waiting for Santa Claus. It has been a long time since I have seen her this happy.
Anyway, Bobby and I have talked about it, and he seems just as excited as Kristi. So the deal is he will be coming back in about 2 weeks. And according to Kristi, I'm going to see what it is really like to finally be a "true" cuckold.
Anyway, Bobby and I have talked about it, and he seems just as excited as Kristi. So the deal is he will be coming back in about 2 weeks. And according to Kristi, I'm going to see what it is really like to finally be a "true" cuckold.
I think you've made the right decision.
Dirtydoc,
Very good. "If your wife is happy, you will be happy too" (as 'they' say).
Also good. It sounds like you've accepted your wife's prerogative to take a lover and fuck him as much as she likes, even if it's in your own home, while you remain faithful as her cuckold. In doing so you are, in effect, allowing your wife to put you on the right track, and she and her lover are looking forward to their renewed relationship.
Congratulations to both you and your hotwife!
—Custer
Dirtydoc,
dirtydoc30 said:
Very good. "If your wife is happy, you will be happy too" (as 'they' say).
dirtydoc30 said:
Also good. It sounds like you've accepted your wife's prerogative to take a lover and fuck him as much as she likes, even if it's in your own home, while you remain faithful as her cuckold. In doing so you are, in effect, allowing your wife to put you on the right track, and she and her lover are looking forward to their renewed relationship.
Congratulations to both you and your hotwife!
—Custer
duke9555 said:
Thanks for agreeing with me. Regarding your "obvious to all" comment, though, I gotta say you must not have read the thread (note low-rent poetry). You seem to have missed posts 31, 34, 35, 36, 41, 45, 47, 52, 53, and 58.
duke9555 said:
Hey... different strokes for different folks.
duke9555 said:Let us pray.
Any particular reason? You some sort of religious guy, or what...?
How's it going...?
DirtyDoc,
How are you doing? I noticed you posted in another thread, but have not updated this one recently.
It was good to hear you mailed your letter, as dictated by and required by your wife, to her lover informing him you've agreed to become her cuckold in a formal sense and comply with her conditions. It's important to obey your wife, do what she tells you to do and comply with her wishes. You've taken a big step in he right direction.
If you feel you are still having psychological problems with your required new role as your wife's formally-self-acknowledged-cuckold in her effectively-polyamorous household, as well as with your role in society as a cuckold, you might suggest to her that she read:
Male chastity advantages for women:
Making Him Your Dream Man: Male Chastity FAQ
then introduce you to wearing a male chastity device with her (of course) as your sole keyholder... perhaps introducing you gradually, to minimize the difficulties of your adaptation. If your wife — like many contemporary dominant wives — were to keep you in a chastity device, there's a good chance that would lead you to increased acceptance of her role as your boss and head of her household, as well as to increased acceptance of her lover's dominant sexual role in her life and household.
I suggest giving it some thought... then, more and more thought. You may gradually come to view the concept as potentially-valuable for both of you.
—Custer
DirtyDoc,
How are you doing? I noticed you posted in another thread, but have not updated this one recently.
It was good to hear you mailed your letter, as dictated by and required by your wife, to her lover informing him you've agreed to become her cuckold in a formal sense and comply with her conditions. It's important to obey your wife, do what she tells you to do and comply with her wishes. You've taken a big step in he right direction.
If you feel you are still having psychological problems with your required new role as your wife's formally-self-acknowledged-cuckold in her effectively-polyamorous household, as well as with your role in society as a cuckold, you might suggest to her that she read:
Male chastity advantages for women:
Making Him Your Dream Man: Male Chastity FAQ
then introduce you to wearing a male chastity device with her (of course) as your sole keyholder... perhaps introducing you gradually, to minimize the difficulties of your adaptation. If your wife — like many contemporary dominant wives — were to keep you in a chastity device, there's a good chance that would lead you to increased acceptance of her role as your boss and head of her household, as well as to increased acceptance of her lover's dominant sexual role in her life and household.
I suggest giving it some thought... then, more and more thought. You may gradually come to view the concept as potentially-valuable for both of you.
—Custer
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bugme_not
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Would you men please for the love of sanity, put your hands down your pants, and grab tight!
Those two things down there are called testicles!
Next thing "very important"-- get some boxes from your local grocery store, and go into "your" room! Go through all of your closets and drawers, and pull out anything that belongs to your soon to be ex-wife!! Place everything in the boxes, and tape it up!!
Remove said boxes, to the most uncomfortable room in the house! Get a key deadbolt, and install it on "your" bedroom door! Next, go to radio shack, and get a digital tape recorder, and keep it on you running at all times.
Next "very important", call a fkn attorney and make an appt!
Have said attorney file a special set of papers( Its called a DIVORCE SUMMONS), and have your good for noting wives served with said papers!
After the papers have been served, pick up the phone book, and in a special area, they have these special ads, for people they call ESCORTS. While talking with these special people, inform them of your specific "needs", regarding your sexuality, and I am sure there will be plenty of offers to help!!
So basically what I am getting at, is you will find less? or more? of the same situation, that you are in now, but in the long run, it will cost you about half as much!!!
A lot of these posters, got stuck somewhere in between, fantasy, and reality, and what you really need, is a little self respect!
Just like any other relationship, as long as "both" of your needs are being met, then you are in a healthy relationship. If for whatever the reason the original status quo, changes, it is time to re evaluate your current relationship. The easiest way to do this(ask any ex-wife), is to file divorce papers! I know it will hurt, but it cant be that bad! If 75% of women can do it, so can you!
Those two things down there are called testicles!
Next thing "very important"-- get some boxes from your local grocery store, and go into "your" room! Go through all of your closets and drawers, and pull out anything that belongs to your soon to be ex-wife!! Place everything in the boxes, and tape it up!!
Remove said boxes, to the most uncomfortable room in the house! Get a key deadbolt, and install it on "your" bedroom door! Next, go to radio shack, and get a digital tape recorder, and keep it on you running at all times.
Next "very important", call a fkn attorney and make an appt!
Have said attorney file a special set of papers( Its called a DIVORCE SUMMONS), and have your good for noting wives served with said papers!
After the papers have been served, pick up the phone book, and in a special area, they have these special ads, for people they call ESCORTS. While talking with these special people, inform them of your specific "needs", regarding your sexuality, and I am sure there will be plenty of offers to help!!
So basically what I am getting at, is you will find less? or more? of the same situation, that you are in now, but in the long run, it will cost you about half as much!!!
A lot of these posters, got stuck somewhere in between, fantasy, and reality, and what you really need, is a little self respect!
Just like any other relationship, as long as "both" of your needs are being met, then you are in a healthy relationship. If for whatever the reason the original status quo, changes, it is time to re evaluate your current relationship. The easiest way to do this(ask any ex-wife), is to file divorce papers! I know it will hurt, but it cant be that bad! If 75% of women can do it, so can you!
