missouri_hubby said:
Actually, I think they're ALL legitimate political issues... as long as they're true. We know Obama is not a Muslim, nor is he Hitler, nor has he set bombs to the Pentagon or blown up airplanes. But his socialist leanings are well documented in his speeches, activities, and voting record, and it is a known fact that he has associated with people that are have set bombs and professed themselves to be "a Communist with a little 'c'." So if you have Socialist beliefs isn't it likely that you will try to implement Socialist policies once in a position to do so? And if you associate with a certain type of person, isn't it likely you agree with them on most things, and those beliefs might well color the way you govern? I'm guessing if he was a Republican that sat down to dinner with Jerry Falwell for 20 years and gave speeches full of religion and voted that way every chance he got, his associations and his beliefs would be a VERY big deal and Democrats would shit all over themselves letting us know it.
I've said it before, I'll say it again: I'm not a great fan of McCain either. But if I have to choose between Carl Marx and Groucho Marx, I guess my vote goes to Groucho.
AND by the way, for all those who may give a crap, the Obama Anthem that started this thread didn't play on "Faux News," as it was called, or any other Liberal outlet. It originated on CNN... the "Clinton News Network".
If someone voted 'that way every chance he got, we should be debating it and know about it. Again, you're equating real political issues with despicable drivel like accusing someone of mind control, being a new Hitler, Arab, Muslim, terrorist, or somehow being responsible for a video on youtube.
It's funny though that even the fucked up things that Sarah Palin has said nor ads run by the RNC and other official Republican interests are attributed to McCain, even though he's supposedly running the show. One of my biggest concerns is that if McCain can't even control his own campaign, how can he run a country?
I'm bright enough to understand that there are people on both sides that will lie, smear and do just plain stupid things to support their candidate. However, anyone with an open mind can see that some McCain supporters are completely out of control and desperate and their efforts far exceed those of Obama's supporters. Witness your baseless claims as proof.
Please, for once, back up your claims of socialist behavior with something akin to facts. Not ridiculous videos of obviously aberrant behavior.
Are you even aware thet the community board that Obama and Ayers served on was started by and financially supported by dedicated republicans? That the board was concerned and involved in education? How does serving on this board make Obama a socialist or communist ? Because Ayers was on it ?
That leap of logic is far too wide for me to make.
What socialist/communist policies "are well documented in his speeches, activities, and voting record"? You keep making statements of this nature with no facts to support it. I'll be glad to concede it's true with facts. Just saying it doesn't make it so.
I have serious issues with Obama myself but certainly not based on this kind of baseless attack. I've stated them before. Basically I think he's inexperienced and just another politician promising America another bill of goods that he can't, won't and doesn't intend to deliver. But he remains level headed and has demonstrated effective leadership throught his campaign. John McCain has demonstrated the exact opposite. Once you discard all the bullshit (like this socialism, communism, nazi, muslim crap) my vote goes to Obama only because those are the attributes needed to perform the most basic duties of being president, IMHO.