Is This The Start Or The End?
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Nope. A few times yes, but not enough to be significant.Custer Laststand said:
Very austere. The thing I hear most is "get in me." Truly for her it's about sex, nothing more. I'd say a name is just a distraction.
In reality:
1 - PGAD has her singly focused on getting satisfation/relief
2 - She feels no need to get to know someone for OTO
3 - After 5 strokes she has terrible short-term memory, so even if she wanted to remember she may not be able to
I've given this a lot of thought. My primary concern was discretion. I think from what I've heard there's enough there to talk to HWR, I would be remiss if I didn't and if she got wind of me NOT including her there would be ramifications.
Thursday over lunch I told her we needed to talk about something. I got the evil eye look. I told her not to worry it wasn't bad. She told to spit it out, I told her I never spit and laughed. She didn't find it funny.
I told her about our Next Door Neighbor. She was concerned about privacy. I told her my feelings that it'd be safe as they were or are swingers.
She made an assumption and made an evaluation that this isn't about hotwifing it's about swinging. I told her I don't think it is. She said you and another woman is not part of our playbook.
I was a little put off and told her so. That I felt it was unfair for her to have partners but not me. She told me I can have as much cock as I want but no other pussy. I told her that wasn't fair. She said if life was fair she'd not be using a walker.
I asked if she thinks we should talk to him and she said yes, I told her I agreed.
Thursday night she asked if I spoke to him yet, I told her no. Friday morning she asked again, and again Friday evening. Me thinks she's anxious.
Thursday over lunch I told her we needed to talk about something. I got the evil eye look. I told her not to worry it wasn't bad. She told to spit it out, I told her I never spit and laughed. She didn't find it funny.
I told her about our Next Door Neighbor. She was concerned about privacy. I told her my feelings that it'd be safe as they were or are swingers.
She made an assumption and made an evaluation that this isn't about hotwifing it's about swinging. I told her I don't think it is. She said you and another woman is not part of our playbook.
I was a little put off and told her so. That I felt it was unfair for her to have partners but not me. She told me I can have as much cock as I want but no other pussy. I told her that wasn't fair. She said if life was fair she'd not be using a walker.
I asked if she thinks we should talk to him and she said yes, I told her I agreed.
Thursday night she asked if I spoke to him yet, I told her no. Friday morning she asked again, and again Friday evening. Me thinks she's anxious.
Ah.... so your wife doesn't want your neighbor's wife to be involved, even tangentially as an acquaintance.2wheel said:
As John F. Kennedy once said: "Life is unfair" (not realizing, at the time, that comment would apply to himself in the biggest way possible).2wheel said:
Sounds like you and your wife are on the same track now.2wheel said:
Yes, clearly she is. Evidently it's going to happen, as soon as your neighbor takes his position in the bushes for another morning conversation with you. Or, you could just go over and knock on his door sometime when you think his wife will not answer — presumably early in the morning.2wheel said:
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Only concern I can see from here, without all the info, is your neighbor said that he wasn't going to let his wife in on the situation. Wasn't going to tell her. My concern would be as neighbors, if he is coming to your house often to fuck your wife, eventually HIS wife would notice, I'd think. If he's cheating on his wife and she finds out, she could bring the wrath down on all of you. Just my thoughts.
Saturday morning I caught up with him or did he catch up with me. Anyway I invited him for coffee. He asked if we were on, I told him it's just coffee. He said that's a good start, asking when.
I told him to let me see if she's ready for coffee now.
I went inside woke her and asked, she said sure, I headed back out and invited him in.
I made coffee and made small talk waiting for the java to be ready and HWR to make her appearance.
ME: "I'm not a coffee drinker, I'm a tea tootler."
NDN: "I can go either way, what about your wife?"
ME: "She loves coffee, no sugar, no milk, black."
NDN: "Like her men? It was a joke."
ME: "At times."
That was the 1st time I acknowledged our unconventional lifestyle.
HWR: "Good morning guys. I smell coffee."
I was at a loss to introduce him as I didn't remember his name, is that fucked up or what.
NDN: "I'm Jeff."
ME: "Sorry, Jeff this is XXXXXXX and I'm XXX."
HWR: "Nice to meet you. Where's your wife?"
NDN: "Asleep."
HWR: "I understood you were swingers, you can speak for you both."
NDN: "No, were swingers, not anymore, we were years ago."
ME: "Sorry, I guess I assumed."
HWR: "It's think it may be better that way anyway. Do you think she'll ever want to join us?"
NDN: "She doesn't know about any of this."
HWR: "Let's talk discretion."
NDN: "Nobody will know anything."
HWR: "Not your wife, not your buds?"
NDN: "Especially not my wife. And no, I don't brag, I'm not 20. XXX don't you have anything to say?"
ME: "Actually, no. I'm not in charge if XXXXXX's sexuality, XXXXXX is!
HWR: "Here are the rules."
NDN: "Good, rules, we all need rules for any adult play to work."
HWR: "No condoms, I only do bareback."
NDN: "Reluctantly OK."
HWR: "Discretion."
NDN: "Absolutely."
HWR: "No anal, no watersports, no pain, no bdsm."
NDN: "Yeah, I'm good with all of that."
HWR" "XXX is involved on all encounters. He has veto privileges."
NDN: "What does involved mean exactly?"
ME: "Nothing happens until XXXXXX checks with me, I have the option to be present. I participate when XXXXXX wants."
NDN: "So you watch."
ME: "Yup, very often. Beyond that it's natural, as the situation evolves."
NDN: "OK, I'm good with that as well."
HWR: "Also no humiliation of XXX and no emotions, this is for sex and sex only. If I feel anything is starting from either you or me it's over immediately, and no 2nd chances."
NDN: "Ya know sometimes things happen that we have no control over."
HWR: "That's true of other people, not for us. These rules are non-negotiable, take them or leave them."
NDN: "I accept them all."
ME: "Great we're set. You know Jeff this is the 1st time we've ever had a discussion like this, not even our 1st."
HWR: "Lastly and again because this is a biggie, it's about COVID19."
ME: "We're very concerned, we take extraordinary steps to be safe, you are the 1st person we've been closer than 10 feet to since mid-March. We're safe and we want to stay that way."
NDN: "We've been tested negative and we also don't mingle, we don't go into stores, wear masks the few times we go out."
ME: "All good but you can blow your negativity in a heartbeat."
NDN: "I agree and I'm not taking any chances."
HWR: "I feel better hearing that from you."
NDN: "OK, when to we get started?"
HWR: "Right now!"
She headed toward the bedroom and we followed. The talking was over.
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I told him to let me see if she's ready for coffee now.
I went inside woke her and asked, she said sure, I headed back out and invited him in.
I made coffee and made small talk waiting for the java to be ready and HWR to make her appearance.
ME: "I'm not a coffee drinker, I'm a tea tootler."
NDN: "I can go either way, what about your wife?"
ME: "She loves coffee, no sugar, no milk, black."
NDN: "Like her men? It was a joke."
ME: "At times."
That was the 1st time I acknowledged our unconventional lifestyle.
HWR: "Good morning guys. I smell coffee."
I was at a loss to introduce him as I didn't remember his name, is that fucked up or what.
NDN: "I'm Jeff."
ME: "Sorry, Jeff this is XXXXXXX and I'm XXX."
HWR: "Nice to meet you. Where's your wife?"
NDN: "Asleep."
HWR: "I understood you were swingers, you can speak for you both."
NDN: "No, were swingers, not anymore, we were years ago."
ME: "Sorry, I guess I assumed."
HWR: "It's think it may be better that way anyway. Do you think she'll ever want to join us?"
NDN: "She doesn't know about any of this."
HWR: "Let's talk discretion."
NDN: "Nobody will know anything."
HWR: "Not your wife, not your buds?"
NDN: "Especially not my wife. And no, I don't brag, I'm not 20. XXX don't you have anything to say?"
ME: "Actually, no. I'm not in charge if XXXXXX's sexuality, XXXXXX is!
HWR: "Here are the rules."
NDN: "Good, rules, we all need rules for any adult play to work."
HWR: "No condoms, I only do bareback."
NDN: "Reluctantly OK."
HWR: "Discretion."
NDN: "Absolutely."
HWR: "No anal, no watersports, no pain, no bdsm."
NDN: "Yeah, I'm good with all of that."
HWR" "XXX is involved on all encounters. He has veto privileges."
NDN: "What does involved mean exactly?"
ME: "Nothing happens until XXXXXX checks with me, I have the option to be present. I participate when XXXXXX wants."
NDN: "So you watch."
ME: "Yup, very often. Beyond that it's natural, as the situation evolves."
NDN: "OK, I'm good with that as well."
HWR: "Also no humiliation of XXX and no emotions, this is for sex and sex only. If I feel anything is starting from either you or me it's over immediately, and no 2nd chances."
NDN: "Ya know sometimes things happen that we have no control over."
HWR: "That's true of other people, not for us. These rules are non-negotiable, take them or leave them."
NDN: "I accept them all."
ME: "Great we're set. You know Jeff this is the 1st time we've ever had a discussion like this, not even our 1st."
HWR: "Lastly and again because this is a biggie, it's about COVID19."
ME: "We're very concerned, we take extraordinary steps to be safe, you are the 1st person we've been closer than 10 feet to since mid-March. We're safe and we want to stay that way."
NDN: "We've been tested negative and we also don't mingle, we don't go into stores, wear masks the few times we go out."
ME: "All good but you can blow your negativity in a heartbeat."
NDN: "I agree and I'm not taking any chances."
HWR: "I feel better hearing that from you."
NDN: "OK, when to we get started?"
HWR: "Right now!"
She headed toward the bedroom and we followed. The talking was over.
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She is a no nonsense woman. She has a degree in TV & Radio Communications and in her 20s was a Producer of NEWS in NYC, she 'takes no prisoners.' You should have seen her before her strokes. She knows what she wants, sometimes so much so that she won't accept help or take advice.69eatmore77 said:
Yes I am proud of her on many levels.
I generally don't talk about her/us before there was an us. She did High School 6 months early did her 4 year degree in 3 years, then in her early 20s as producer, in of all places, the top of the hill, NYC. Calling her smart would be an understatement. Whether she got her early success using her brain or her pussy is not important, after all they're both assets.Custer Laststand said:
I'm a pretty sharp guy, I can do more than hold my own in most any and every situation on most any subject with most anyone. BUT whenever I needed to with her it was always a fear inducing moment. Of course that was pre-stroke, as an overall picture to a great degree it has turned her fabulous brain to mush.
We followed HWR into the bedroom as I have done many times before anticipation at a peak. Soon to see my beloved wife impaled by a new and heretofore unknown cock, for me one of the best moments of our lifestyle. the 1st penetrating, the 1st entry into, inside her body. It's 4 months and we're both anxious.
HWR stripped and got the bed and spread her legs, a sight I've seen so many times, right to business. Jeff quickly threw off the few clothes she was wearing. He is about 5-11", and thin, maybe 160-180# and wiry, very balding but has what's left cropped real tight. Curly hairy chest, all gray, after all he is 71 right, same for his pubes, curly and gray, as reference, I'm 6-0", 200-205#, slight male pattern balding mostly gray and long, used to have pony tail until a few years ago, And sad to say a small limp dick, not was all was expecting after such a build-up. I saw the disappointed look on HWR's face.
I got on the bed taking y vantage point giving them plenty of room. He got on between her legs, she gave him the bottle of lube with a sarcastic aside "looks like you won't be needing this.".
h leaned down on her kinda prone and started dot kiss. URGH! My #1 don't like thing. Stick you cock in her mouth, drop a load of um in there as well, I'm O with to, But not your tongue. She kissed him back, URGH, but it is her #1 turn on. They kissed for what seemed like hours but in fact only a few minutes. He work his way into the crock of her neck kissing and nibble and while there gave her earlobes attentions, moving from one side to the other. Then working his way down her silky smooth body he lingered at her nipples only sucking and nibbling gently tugging with his teeth. When he was done. her nipples weren't; erect but they were definitely showing signs of pleasure.
He kissed and licked hos way down to her crotch. He repositioned himself laying down and dove in to her waiting and willing pussy. Hell it's been 4 months since she's gotten laid. He was nibbling, licking and sucking her magic pussy concentrating in her cyclist. In minutes she was having her 1st orgasm. When it subsided he got up on his knees still between her legs.
Well guess what he had a hard-on. He was definitely a grow-er. It's a well-formed 6 1/2-7" cock, not too thin and not to thick (she likes fat cock) and it was at full attention not sagging one iota. He smiled at us both and said "thank you Viagra".
He took the lube and lubed her pussy inside and out, not just lubing but working her with his fingers. He stated with one finger than move do two fingers rubbing the front wall of her vaginal canal; Hi other hand was squeezing her labs together forcing her clit to protrude. As he fingered her he made sure to give her now engorged and protruding clit attention, She was squirming and moaning like, well a 'woman n heat'.
She had been fisted before and I think she wanted it again as she kept opening her legs wider and wider. But it didn't happen, instead he kept working his fingers in her. I started it hear a sloshing noise and took a closer look at what was going on.
I've seen videos of squirters, though never had the pleasure of being with one. There have been a few times in the distant past when HWR had become excessively wet, not the mucus type of vaginal lubrication but a much thinner bodily fluid, before the concept of female ejaculation had become popular.
As soon as I repositioned myself for a peek she started having another orgasm and sure enough she was sopping wet. He kept working her pussy and she kept cumming getting wetter and wetter. Finally he stopped and her orgasm subsided, the wet mess told the story. Not just her pussy, she was a sweaty blob.
Jeff changed positions aiming his very hard cock towards HWRs now gaping pussy. It didn't look like he needed any lube but he took her lead from earlier and lubed up good. HWR spread her pussy lips open as he put the head of his cock right inside her labia, slowly and steady he drove himself into her. When he was fully inside of my wife's body she had another orgasm. He remained in his fully impaled position as she wrapped her legs around him and arms around him. Her arms so tightly wrapped around him I was afraid she'd break him. Her orgasm seemed to last forever, oddly this was her 3rd, generally a thrasher but not this time.
When her orgasm subsided she started to fuck him, he just stayed pretty much motionless as she did all the moving. I'd seen her fuck more than a hundred times, I've never seen her like this. She had another orgasm, when it subsided, she laid there spent. Jeff took the motionless opportunity and started to thrust in and out. It kind of woke her back to attention and they had a vigorous fuck for the next 15 minute or so until he announced he was gonna cum. I never understood most men announcing their impending orgasm and women generally announcing while they're in the throws. Anyway, HWR told him to "fill my cunt". He did as told as she orgasmed yet again. When he was done unloading they lay there for a minute or so until he rolled of her to the other side. We laid there on our king size bed HWR in the middle, Jeff on her right and me on her left.
My cock was sore from stroking.
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HWR stripped and got the bed and spread her legs, a sight I've seen so many times, right to business. Jeff quickly threw off the few clothes she was wearing. He is about 5-11", and thin, maybe 160-180# and wiry, very balding but has what's left cropped real tight. Curly hairy chest, all gray, after all he is 71 right, same for his pubes, curly and gray, as reference, I'm 6-0", 200-205#, slight male pattern balding mostly gray and long, used to have pony tail until a few years ago, And sad to say a small limp dick, not was all was expecting after such a build-up. I saw the disappointed look on HWR's face.
I got on the bed taking y vantage point giving them plenty of room. He got on between her legs, she gave him the bottle of lube with a sarcastic aside "looks like you won't be needing this.".
h leaned down on her kinda prone and started dot kiss. URGH! My #1 don't like thing. Stick you cock in her mouth, drop a load of um in there as well, I'm O with to, But not your tongue. She kissed him back, URGH, but it is her #1 turn on. They kissed for what seemed like hours but in fact only a few minutes. He work his way into the crock of her neck kissing and nibble and while there gave her earlobes attentions, moving from one side to the other. Then working his way down her silky smooth body he lingered at her nipples only sucking and nibbling gently tugging with his teeth. When he was done. her nipples weren't; erect but they were definitely showing signs of pleasure.
He kissed and licked hos way down to her crotch. He repositioned himself laying down and dove in to her waiting and willing pussy. Hell it's been 4 months since she's gotten laid. He was nibbling, licking and sucking her magic pussy concentrating in her cyclist. In minutes she was having her 1st orgasm. When it subsided he got up on his knees still between her legs.
Well guess what he had a hard-on. He was definitely a grow-er. It's a well-formed 6 1/2-7" cock, not too thin and not to thick (she likes fat cock) and it was at full attention not sagging one iota. He smiled at us both and said "thank you Viagra".
He took the lube and lubed her pussy inside and out, not just lubing but working her with his fingers. He stated with one finger than move do two fingers rubbing the front wall of her vaginal canal; Hi other hand was squeezing her labs together forcing her clit to protrude. As he fingered her he made sure to give her now engorged and protruding clit attention, She was squirming and moaning like, well a 'woman n heat'.
She had been fisted before and I think she wanted it again as she kept opening her legs wider and wider. But it didn't happen, instead he kept working his fingers in her. I started it hear a sloshing noise and took a closer look at what was going on.
I've seen videos of squirters, though never had the pleasure of being with one. There have been a few times in the distant past when HWR had become excessively wet, not the mucus type of vaginal lubrication but a much thinner bodily fluid, before the concept of female ejaculation had become popular.
As soon as I repositioned myself for a peek she started having another orgasm and sure enough she was sopping wet. He kept working her pussy and she kept cumming getting wetter and wetter. Finally he stopped and her orgasm subsided, the wet mess told the story. Not just her pussy, she was a sweaty blob.
Jeff changed positions aiming his very hard cock towards HWRs now gaping pussy. It didn't look like he needed any lube but he took her lead from earlier and lubed up good. HWR spread her pussy lips open as he put the head of his cock right inside her labia, slowly and steady he drove himself into her. When he was fully inside of my wife's body she had another orgasm. He remained in his fully impaled position as she wrapped her legs around him and arms around him. Her arms so tightly wrapped around him I was afraid she'd break him. Her orgasm seemed to last forever, oddly this was her 3rd, generally a thrasher but not this time.
When her orgasm subsided she started to fuck him, he just stayed pretty much motionless as she did all the moving. I'd seen her fuck more than a hundred times, I've never seen her like this. She had another orgasm, when it subsided, she laid there spent. Jeff took the motionless opportunity and started to thrust in and out. It kind of woke her back to attention and they had a vigorous fuck for the next 15 minute or so until he announced he was gonna cum. I never understood most men announcing their impending orgasm and women generally announcing while they're in the throws. Anyway, HWR told him to "fill my cunt". He did as told as she orgasmed yet again. When he was done unloading they lay there for a minute or so until he rolled of her to the other side. We laid there on our king size bed HWR in the middle, Jeff on her right and me on her left.
My cock was sore from stroking.
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