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Pain and pleasure of waiting for her

  • Thread starterSoonToBe
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  • #161
It looks like a more peaceful week for you and Sue than lately STB. Everything ebbs and flows naturally, it was to be expected that Don's access would too. One thing I would say, is that Don is bound to be pushing for more access and more control. He has tasted the apple and he likes it. This must be expected from his perspective. From your posts, Sue appears to be backing off a bit from him at the moment, maybe back to where she was a couple of months ago. She is clearly in control of her own feelings, and appears wise for both of you at the moment. What I still don't have a feel for (which is a surprise - you have posted a lot lately) is just how you feel about it. Where do you want it to go from here STB ? If you don't want to share that with us all, I could understand but I wonder, have you shared it with Sue ?
 
  • #162
The two HOTTEST and most visited threads on this site LEXXI & STB; Have us all anxiously awaiting for the report about Friday night!!!
I wonder which one will come through first and which will be the 'hottest' portrayal of SEX!! I hope iot will be soon, It being a long holliday week-end, we may just have to wait :(

Cheers, Harry
 
  • #163
Stb, thank you for the update and explanation. Am looking forward to reading what transpired on Friday night.
 
  • #164
Everything Good?

Mr Soon, hope you all had a good weekend. When you have a moment please do let us know how Friday night went. Thank you.
 
  • #165
The end of the road

Hello everyone,

Believe it or not, this is the first chance I've had to post and even now I don't have much time.

I had started a longer post but got interrupted several times. Each time I was annoyed that I hadn't done as Harry or someone else here had suggested and done it in Notepad to simply cut-and-paste from.

As the title of this post says - it seems like it's the end of the road.

Friday didn't go as planned/hoped and it ended in an argument between Sue and Don - yes, about sex with me for one thing but about other things in general.

It started out quite well. Things were very cordial. Sue and I stopped for a late lunch (I picked her up just after 3pm at her work) and some bar-food. We arrived at Don's place about 5pm or so and we continued our drinking.

We were out on his deck when the 2 of them went in for something and when they took a bit too long to return I snuck in and spied on them in a kiss in the kitchen and with Don's hands all over her.

That repeated itself a little while later only that time Sue returned to me and said that they'd "be busy" for a little while if that was okay with me. I nodded and smiled at her eager grin she had. I went over to a window and continued spying on them. It was quite erotic to see him undressing her right there in the living room (she later told me she knew I was watching). When he slid her pants down and she stood there in just her knee-highs and panties I had a wicked hard-on as that was the most I'd seen of her undressed too. But watching him take her panties off and seeing her so nonchalantly step out of them was a total-turn-on for me! They kissed as she knelt to finish undressing him and she sucked his cock as it stuck out in her face. He stood back up and they kissed and from the window I could see her spread her legs to let him finger her. A moment later they said something to each other and then they went upstairs leaving their clothes piled where they'd dropped them.

I thought about going up to watch them and almost did until I heard them in his room above the deck where the windows were open. At first I didn't realize what I'd be able to hear but then they must have moved closer to the window because I could hear everything including the telltale moans from Sue. It was clear from the piercing moan I heard when Don must have started to fuck her. I felt like quite the voyeur/peeping-tom standing there listening to them both. I did hear what I am pretty sure was Sue cumming at least once or twice and I did hear Don too. Sure enough, a few moments later their pitch and pace seemed to increase which was punctuated first by another cry out from Sue which was followed almost immediately by the grunt I now recognize as Don cumming in her. It was followed by some muffled talking and Sue's giggling.

A few minutes later they both re-appeared. Don now wearing a pair of shorts and a t-shirt and Sue just in one of his dress-shirts that was loosely buttoned. We made eye contact and smiled at each other but she was still hanging onto him in the kitchen as he was pouring more wine and getting the steaks ready for the barbeque. It wasn't until I was returning from the bathroom that Sue met me in the hallway away from Don and kissed me and hugged me and asked me if things were okay and specifically if i was okay with the "quickie" that they'd had. As she kissed me she spread her legs and let me run my fingers up her legs and in her pussy. She'd cleaned up a little bit but my fingers came out covered with what was obviously Don's cum as I pulled the up and giggled at them and then quickly pulled them in her mouth and licked them off. I thought she would pull away from me but instead she stayed right there and I went back to playing with her just-fucked pussy. I didn't get her to cum right then but I could feel how turned on she was by how her pussy was clenching down on my fingers and each time I pulled them out she giggled at how wet they were and she'd lick them off. Finally she pushed me away and said "enough" and I went back to the other room while she went to the bathroom and cleaned up a bit again.

Dinner was quite uneventful. Matter of fact, it was pleasant. I would have even said I could see what Sue sees in Don - he was very nice to both me and her. It was also very erotic with Sue sitting in between us in just his shirt naked underneath - we could both see her breasts when she'd lean forward!

After dinner was when things seemed to start to change. Don was quite open about his desire for more time with Sue. We'd put on a soft-porn movie on the TV and in a short time we'd gone from it being the 3 of us talking and sipping more wine to just me staring at the TV while the 2 of them started in at it on the couch. He unbuttoned her shirt and seemed to be oblivious to me being there as he had his hands and fingers all over and in her!

Finally it seems they decided to go upstairs with it. He went up first and she stayed with me and kissed me as she stood there with her shirt open and nothing else on. I again ran my fingers and hands all over her and again she leaned back against the wall and spread/relaxed her legs and let me enjoy finger-fucking her for a moment or two after which she said "how about you wait down here for a little bit and then come up?". How could I resist the smile on her face.

I thought things would go well from there on and that maybe we'd even get back to a little MFM sex. I already knew about having to wait to fuck her but thought maybe she'd be sucking me while fucking him as we'd done it the past.

I waited maybe 5-10 minutes (actually got involved with the porn-movie) before I headed up. As I reached the stairs though I didn't hear the sounds of passion - instead I heard the sounds of arguing. I can't recall specifics now but the argument was most definitely about Sue and me. From what I heard, Don was surprised and annoyed to find that she'd been fucking me earlier in the week and she clearly replied that she wasn't about to stop fucking "my husband" - and then the arguing continued when he found that I'd been finger-fucking her just a few minutes earlier and also before dinner. I couldn't hear everything clearly but he was very agitated and annoyed that she'd - as he put it - "shared it all" with me already.

When I was sure that it wasn't going to turn from verbal to physical, I went back down to the bottom of the stairs. I was about to head back to the Living Room to see if things cooled off when I heard the door open upstairs and heard Sue yell at him "then you can go back to using your right hand from now on" and him yelling back at her "take your married cunt out of my house".

She stormed naked down the stairs and into the living room where she put her clothes back on. I was silent the whole time but she knew I was concerned. She went commando and just pulled her pants and blouse on and stuffed her bra, panties and stockings in her purse and looked at me and said "WE'RE GOING.... NOW!". And with that I followed her out to the car - never saw Don.

She was too mad in the car to talk and it was mostly a silent ride home.

Over the weekend and into this week it became clear that Don had developed not so much more feelings for Sue, but certainly more posessive desires for her. She said that when he got mad that she'd shared their "quickie" with me as she did - letting me finger-fuck her and share that moment with her - that it really bothered him. Apparently when he found that I'd again played with her and had definitely gotten her going before she went up to him, he took it really badly and had started to tell her that he didn't want her to let me have her pussy when she was with him. She told me that she wasn't ready for that and that she had realized after the "experiment" that she didn't want that, instead, that she wanted to be able to share it with me.

I haven't pushed at anything to find out whether this is a permanent break or whether they're looking to put things back together again. I have not heard her mention anything about Friday.

We did have sex last night - but there was no teasing and no mention of Don at all - instead it was one of those nights when it was all loving and closeness. I'm figuring she really needs to know I'm there for her right now and that it doesn't matter about Don - and after how we felt afterwards last night as we lay together and watched a Leno repeat - I think I'm doing a good job in making her feel secure.

So - that's it. Is it over? I don't know, but he was pretty nasty to her so unless I hear of an apology and a change in behavior/attitude, I don't know that I want her going back to him.
 
  • #166
I Thought So

Mr Soon, thank you for the update. I formed the opinion that your dear Sue was getting close to the end of the line after the "experiment" She has done everything you have asked of her and more. I feel she thought the "experiement" was a bit too much and formed the opinion such events may truly threaten you all's marraige and family. I believe she re affirmed in her mind that as long as you both were having fun she would continue, albiet at a more measured pace, with you being more involved. I believe that prior to the "experiement" she may have well gone along with Don's selfish behavior.

You are doing exactly the right thing in being supportive. Perhaps a periond of "normal" might be exactly what is in order. Thank you.
 
  • #167
STB, I think you will look back on this as a good thing. If Don does come back into Sue's life, it will now be on her terms not his and if he doesn't then his way was never sustainable to your marriage anyway. You know what Sue wants at this point and I'm sure you will be there for her. The next few weeks will be more difficult for her than for you whichever way it goes.

I will say again though that throughout your comments above, I could get no sense of what you really wanted. Where do YOU want it to go now and how are you going to share that with Sue. She will be wondering herself just how to move forward now. You need to share with her (if not with us).
 
  • #168
Thanks for the update Stb. Those of us with fears may relax. Sue is in control which is marvellous. What an amazing woman to realise the dangerous situation she was in during the "experiment". If Don is stupid enough to walk away from this hot gift he has enjoyed then Sue will just have to keep her eyes peeled for another boyfriend with whom to play.
I cannot think any guy would be so stupid.
 
  • #169
Best wishes to you and your hot wife during this difficult period, STB.
 
  • #170
Soon...thanks for the update. I always enjoy your posts.

I for one am glad Don is out because it seemed as if Sue was getting too emotionally attached and he was getting to pushy on exclusivity with her and well it worried alot of us for YOU! Maybe this experiment has revealed a boundary of sorts...a line that should not be crossed in order to keep you and Sue strong?!? She is truly an amazing woman but remember she was doing alot of this for you.

Caring and sensitivity are key right now. Remember how it was when she had to say goodbye to Brad?!? You will handle it well as you always do. And I'm sure that the two of you will talk alot about what each other wants out of this play!

To your continued success!!! Thanks again for your great posts!
 
  • #171
The end of the road (?)

The end of the road (?)

“I didn't hear the sounds of passion, instead I heard the sounds of arguing. I can't recall specifics but the argument was most definitely about Sue and me. From what I heard, Don was surprised and annoyed to find that she'd been fucking me earlier in the week and she clearly replied that she wasn't about to stop fucking "my husband"; and then the arguing continued when he found that I'd been finger-fucking her just a few minutes earlier and also before dinner. I couldn't hear everything clearly but he was very agitated and annoyed that she'd, (as he put it), "shared it all" with ‘me’ already.

When I was sure that it wasn't going to turn from verbal to physical, I went back down to the bottom of the stairs” ...... “I heard the door open upstairs and heard Sue yell at him "then you can go back to using your right hand from now on" and him yelling back at her "take your married cunt out of my house.”

She stormed naked down the stairs and into the living room where she put her clothes back on. I was silent the whole time, but she knew I was concerned. She went commando and just pulled her pants and blouse on and stuffed her bra, panties and stockings in her purse and looked at me and said, "WE'RE GOING.... NOW!.” And with that I followed her out to the car. I never saw Don.”
“......So - that's it. Is it over? I don't know, but he was pretty nasty to her so unless I hear of an apology and a change in behavior or attitude, I don't know that I want her going back to him.

(Emphasis added)

Obviously there is an issue here between Don & Sue that goes back to the beginning. Looking back through STB’s posts, I see that Sue’s relationship with Don started just over one year ago. (7.16.2009)

It was not too long after that that his attitude toward STB (Steve) began to show.

Don’s attitude about Steve:
STB: 7.24.2009
“She said he had a big smile on his face when she told him that I'd agreed to stay home. Apparently that was something he was concerned about as he still didn't totally understand this sort of relationship but that he also said he understood that I wanted to be a part of it so he said they'd just take things as they come.”

STB: 07.29.2009;
“I think, it's not so much Don maybe getting Dom ideas that concerns me as how Sue herself feels. LIke I said, I just expected it to take a bit longer for some of these aspects of our relationship to be made known to Don.”

STB: 2.01.2010
“I asked her more about Don and she said that he just wasn't happy about her being with Brad much less spending the whole night with him, like I said, he'd realized he'll be missing 2 weeks with her....... She also told me that he started in again about him not liking other guys (including me) cumming in her and that he really didn't want to hear about her and Brad. I asked her again about why he's got this hot/cold thing going about being so possessive with her. She said she didn't know but that she'd surely find out, as she put it "he'll have to explain it before he gets to have me again!.”

STB: 8.18.2010
"I think Don's attitude isn't really about [Sue] being clean or whatever, from what others have said here and privately, I think his attitude is about me and not specifically if Sue is clean or not. I was surprised that she said he didn't flinch or hesitate at all to go down on her afterwards but that further convinces me that it's me he has this mental thing about [me]. It wouldn't surprise me if he didn't have a problem with it being another guy. I believe it's largely an act because there have been a few times when he's had no problem with me. If anything, it may be that Sue's agreeing to his requests is also furthering his act."
Don wanted Sue to 'dominate' Steve and to deny him access to her as he (Don) requested.

I think it is interesting to point out that a new relationship involving Sex will reach a point at about one year where it can go forward, or crash. Their last glorious week together, which Sue fondly said was like a “Honeymoon” because of the ‘emotional involvement’ was truly a ‘high point’ in their year together. When you can’t get any higher, It has to go down. And every issue becomes a big issue.
Apparently Don saw their week together in a different light than Sue did, and thought he would see Sue come back to him with his desires fulfilled i.e.: that she would have followed his desire for her to put Steve in the cuckold roll and for him to have had no sex with her the previous week and would not be allowed to ‘touch her’ until they went home.

That Sue did not give him what he had wanted (for a long time now) and had demanded of her several times, pushed him to anger enough so that he ‘sent her out of the house.’

Of course, Sue has done the right thing for her husband and refused to cave in to Don’s desires. I am sure that the wonderfully loving re-connection that Steve and Sue have had the past two weeks has strengthened Sue’s determination to keep her husband as her champion. Also she will be much more cautious when she seeks a new Sex mate.

Peakmb: STB has accomplished what he wanted 1. He has truly been made a Cuckold by Sue (wether she has realized it or not) 2. He has gotten Sue to have sex with other men to the extent that she becomes ‘very involved’ with them and depends on her F.B. to provide her with ‘great extramarital sex’ while at the same time denying him, which enlivens his libido and causes him to love and desire Sue even more.

I applaud Sue for stepping up to the cause and putting herself ‘in charge’ of not only her emotions, but orchestrating the whole scene, while at the same time, enjoying the great Sex she is getting from her husband, Steve, as well as the man she uses as her Fuck Buddy.
Cheers, Harry
 
  • #172
Don's desire to exclude STB from Sue's body was to be expected. Sue mentioned to STB early in the relationship that Don had dated married women before. It was mentioned how those women were no longer having sex with their respective husbands. If this was before Don began seeing them or if it was at his insistance isn't important to the point. The point is, married women or single, in Don's mind, normal meant he was the only one to have sex with his woman. He wanted the same thing with Sue and it never came to happen much to his frustration. The longer the relationship went on, the more Don seemed to view Sue as his woman and that he was becoming more and more relunctant to share her with STB.

Sue is to be applauded in all this. She has no knowledge of the cuckold lifestyle, no knowledge of the dominate men attracted to married women or their desires, yet, she successfully carried on a relationship for over a year. Perhaps prior knowledge of the lifestyle and the expectations that she would be fulfilling from the other players would have been helpful. Knowledge of the lifestyle might also keep Sue from from risking so much of herself emotionally with her lovers.
 
  • #173
Jaxunman:
More than that, Don wanted to control STB through Sue. When he wanted Sue to ' cut him off' except for after he finished with her on Fri. nite, she refused, telling him "I'm not ready for that yet." the "yet" gave him hope that he would eventually get it, and I believe that he thought he could obtain what he wanted after their week together. He thought he had so impressed Sue with their "emotional bonding" that she would finally give in to what he wanted. Sue not only refused, but threw it in his face Fri. night at his house. Don has been "cordial" to Steve as he has acknowledged, but he has no respect for him because of STB wanting to take the 'Sub - Cuck' role. STB has realized that Don particularly does not like him. He has felt it whenever he is at Don's house, and early on when he would meet them at the bar.

Cheers, Harry
 
  • #174
Harry, I know you mean well but please don't try to answer for STB, especially when you misinterpret my question.
 
  • #175
Harry, I think your analysis is quite accurate. Let's see where it goes. Will Don apologise or will Sue need his cock so badly that she calls him? Will they break up?
 
  • #176
Hey all. I continue to be surprised by what I read here because it helps me fill in the gaps with what went on here. Much of what you've all said is probably true - I really don't know as Sue hasn't really opened up yet other than to confirm that she doesn't want to see Don any more.

I realized that I'd omitted some parts that I felt should be added. I was pissed at Don for what was going on but at the same time how could I not love to hear what Sue was saying and as I said, I heard that she wasn't in danger or anything and I didn't really want to intrude. Apparently there was more said from the time that I walked back away from the stairs and when the yelling resumed once she opened the bedroom door. I did consider going up and seeing to things with him, but from how she was acting and how quickly she wanted to leave, it was just better to go with it and be sure she was okay.

I suppose a lot of what you've all written here is true in some ways. I think a difference is that I trusted her to not let it get out of control and you cannot imagine how great it feels to know that she did it.

She honestly hasn't said anything about it and I've said many times "if you want to talk" and her response is always the same "yeah, when I'm ready". Sex since then has been different. She's hasn't stopped the teasing, but it's changed a bit - it's become impersonal and solely about her. She'll still say things like "you like me all wet" and stuff like that, but it's all passive and only about her. It's okay though - I agree, we need some "us" time. She hasn't said anything about not wanting to do this any more, so that's a good sign to me that she isn't that traumatized or anything.

Peak - you asked what I wanted. Harry's 2 points about me getting what I wanted are very true and accurate. But that really isn't your question, I think you are asking what I want for the future....

I will say this, I absolutely loved the feeling of her denying me sex. Whether she did it for him, me or herself, whatever - it was awesome. I know I may have had my moments during our experiment week, but I also will openly say that I loved it. I loved knowing my wife was so involved with another guy and how much sex she was having with him. I know how much we fucked on our honeymoon so hearing her describe it that way may have a bit more meaning for me than thought. But I will also say that I am definitely not prepared to go for much longer than maybe 2 weeks or so.

Where I have a hard time expressing my thoughts are where she is emotionally. I would be lying if I said that it didn't arouse me that she might be falling for him. Not for the emotional part or the potential loss of our relationship - but more for the happiness that I saw in her and also for the pleasure I saw in her. I know it sounds corny but Sue and I believe we'd met long ago somewhere either high-school or earlier. It's possible, both of us were involved in school activities that may have brought us together despite living almost an hour apart in our youth.

We have always felt something different between us - from the first time we met. I do firmly believe in love at first sight - but that you can only recognize it retrospectively. That is, you can only look back and realize it after you are together for some time. I'm not sure if that makes any sense - at the time we thought we were just 2 people who met and were friendly with each other - but we both now look at when we met and we realize that we had feelings and a feeling of connection with each other. So, when I say that I found pleasure in seeing her - I guess - falling in love - it's not the emotions she felt for Don that I enjoyed, it was what I saw in her.

For the future. I think I do want her to find someone else to fuck. For whatever reason, I enjoy knowing my wife is fucking another guy. It seems to bring out an intensity in me towards Sue that I enjoy feeling. I do not, however, want her to find a guy who is as posessive towards her or for him to be asking for her exclusivity. I don't believe I will be able to support that in any relationship she may have, I think I've learned that about myself from all of this. However, I'd be okay if SHE wants to try it again.

I suppose if we're theorizing, the question of would I want her to see someone regularly is one that needs to be answered. I think I'm going to say no this time. (of course if it turns into a yes, I'll probably go along with it - as if that's a surprise). But if I'm going to totally direct it this time, then no, it's not going to be someone regularly. Actually, if I had my way, I'd want her to fuck someone we know. I can't think of anyone specific I'd like to see her with, but I think if it was someone we knew, that it would allow a level of trust and intimacy that wouldn't be there with someone we didn't know - at least not on an infrequent basis. Could it be an ex-boyfriend or maybe even her ex-husband? I can see either of them as possibilities in my mind but I don't think they're anything she would go for, not unless it was like someone from really long ago. I'm more thinking a neighbor or a friend and I'm even sort of strangely turned on by that idea that someone we might see elsewhere would also be fucking Sue.

I think that leads to the last question regarding my thoughts.... Would I want him to know that I know about what is going on? I can answer that one - I don't want him to know that I'm okay with it - at least not at first.

Anyway - I'll probably start a new thread and see where things go from here.

G'night all.

Harry - you're crazy - I can't believe you went back and found old posts here and quoted me from them. But it was helpful to let me understand now what I may have taken less seriously. Thanks for your thoughtfulness.
 
  • #177
Harry is not the only crazy one. I think all your friends here have gone back to read old posts.Sort of helps us verify that we understand you and what may be going on inside yours a Sue's heads. Enjoy your "us" time. looking forward to the new thread. Cheers Stb.
 
  • #178
Sorry to read how things have ended STB thanks so much for sharing everything... I hope the next stage is even better than the last one... good luck from a huge fan
 
  • #179
Thanks STB. I too had followed your complete journey. So many other commentaries get to the point of 'beware of getting what you ask for, you might get it'. Well, as Harry did point out, you did get it. I'm sure that both of you are not quite the same people who started the journey, but you are still together and quite possibly closer than before. Your next journey may change you again, but I don't see it breaking you now. Good luck, and I hope you still want to share it with us as you go there.
 
  • #180
Resolution

Mr Soon, I have a thought to bring "closure" to the Don phase, shoot the sumbitch in the face with a pistol. Thank you.
 

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