Doc in Cleveland said:.... He is the patient I mentioned who proposed to his girlfriend while the woman was having sex with the bull doggy style. ...
I think this guy is mad really
Doc in Cleveland said:.... He is the patient I mentioned who proposed to his girlfriend while the woman was having sex with the bull doggy style. ...
Doc in Cleveland said:A few days ago, I had a patient offer me $5000 if I would cuckold him.
Doc in Cleveland said:I will admit, I paused for just half a heartbeat. Since I started coming here, I [have been] seeking out cuckold porn. You know, simply for research purposes. And that damn stuff is corroding me! I find it pretty doggone hot, to be truthful!
So, I paused for just half a heartbeat. Then, I felt terrible about it later. —Doc
Doc in Cleveland said:.... In other social circumstances, though, [the cuckold who comes to me for therapy] is the ultimate alpha male. He holds a very prestigious law enforcement post here locally.
Doc in Cleveland said:The thing that disturbs me most about this patient is his stated desire to die. He truly, literally, yearns to suffocate to death under his wife's vagina. He reports that she facesits him after love-making sessions with her bull.
Doc in Cleveland said:I can rationalize his other acts, put them in various analytic boxes, but this repeated expression of [his] desire to suffocate to death... I'm wavering on whether to intervene.
Doc in Cleveland said:Seeing this patient always causes me to be uncomfortable. —Doc
Custer Laststand said:...
But, if he repeatedly expresses a desire for death that suggests his escape mechanism isn't adequate. His wish for "death by vagina" sounds unique, I must say, and in a way unserious. ...... In other words, I suggest it may be most appropriate to view your patient as potentially heading toward suicide
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Doc in Cleveland said:..
Yes, you've hit it right on the head, Custer. Unfortunately, in my line of work, any mention of suicide is very serious. There are exacting, strict guidelines when such a statement is made in therapy and you must follow, precisely, every individual step. As you probably already know, it is a very small percentage that actually have a desire to harm themselves. The list of motivations for such a declaration is exhaustingly expansive. If any person here is currently in therapy, please only broach this subject if you are truly, deeply serious. It is the most dangerous statement that can be made from a patient to a doctor and we take it to a very high level of consideration and it will rule our actions towards your treatment from that point forward.
Then, Custer .. you have my personal situation. My mother committed suicide when I was 14. Of course you try to be entirely cold and completely somber at any mention of this. In my case, every single time .. even to this day .. this sends a vivid chill through my soul.
Currently, I am approaching this case from two perspectives:
This was not a "pure" suicide plea. It would require the action of another; specifically in this case, the wife
The second angle is the complete annihilation of self-esteem in this patient. Very telling.
The second point is the basis on why cuckolding is dismissed by some of my colleagues. Their opinion skews towards cuckolding being a masking agent for something entirely different. And, therefore, it can be treated with psychoanalysis or prescription.
In short, they believe a cuckold can be "cured" by solving this hidden affliction.
I differ in my professional opinion. I would hazard a guess that the equivalent ratio of therapists also believe "gay" can be cured.
I wish I had the financial backing to do deep research to cull data and present evidence or findings that cuckolding is a valid, stand-alone condition. I feel this would be groundbreaking and very useful in the future of medicine as we continue to see the spread of this.
Doc
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subhubjon said:I think the pleasure I derive from watching my wife with another man, comes from my deep seated feeling of being an inferior male. It began when I was 12 years old and discovered my best friend's cock was nearly twice the size of mine. It was even more painful because he'd just turned 11 and was actually a full 15 months younger than me. This discovery came not long after we'd started a practice of jerking off together in an old abandoned building. At first we each just found our spot leaning against one of the old tables left behind and do our business. One day after a couple of weeks, I glanced over at him and for the first time saw his huge prick. At first I thought it couldn't be, it had to just be the angle or the way he was holding it.
It was hard to focus back on one of the women or girls which I typically dreamed about as I stroked myself. Then I had a new picture to imagine. It was me pulling out a monster cock as I prepared to fuck my favorite cunt. I could see the fear and excitement as her eyes locked on my throbbing prick. It didn't take much of this for me to cum. He'd finished too and I wondered if he'd noticed my little dick. It was late afternoon in mid summer and we agreed that I'd come over to his house as usual after dinner.
Doc in Cleveland said:..
subd .. those were some very incisive and interesting comments. I hope you continue to contribute to this thread.
Just a couple very short comments from me on what you expressed:
Not only how many suicides come from this but homicides, as well. I showed my esteemed colleague, Mac, where there was a cuckolding situation near here (about 45 miles) where the guy just couldn't deal with it and shot what we call "The Bull". Shot the guy. Killed him. This is a side to this that goes blowing by logic and circumstance here.
i.e., Dudes get shot for fucking other men's wives. That shit happens. A lot.
The first time this subject was ever broached in therapy that was my knee jerk reaction. That somebody is going to use this to set somebody up and .. well, you take it from there. Before gunpowder, I could see this as natural. Today .. ehh .. you know, pick yourself up some laundry detergent, a GI Joe with a Kung-Fu grip and a .45 sidearm at your local Wal-Mart and at that point, anything's possible.
That's what we saw here locally. The cuckold might have had a little teeny weeny. But his aim was damn straight and true. End of story.
So, not just suicides, subd, but homicides, as well.
Lastly .. I'd disagree with you about the Middle East. But any discussion on the Middle East is insane to even start. Any discussion about the Middle East on the Internet is beyond the realms of ludicrous.
But I sure enjoyed reading your expression of your opinion. Please, be a regular contributor.
Doc
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kimcarl said:subd: are you a nice guy?
First, I need to say that Doc has told me I need to let this go and move on. I agree to some extent, or to a large extent on some level. However, there is an untold side to all of this that I think I need to tell, and I do it, sometimes on this site, and a lot on another general marriage website. My reasoning? Because it is clear there are various points of view and this effects lives in different ways, ways that are very real and life-altering, ways that come from fantasy, where fantasy significantly impacts reality and consequences are severe.
So, are you a nice guy? I am curious.
Are some of us, those that let this fantasy destroy our lives, fixated on ass holes? That they are the real men? My husband was masculine, nice, caring, yet I thought often about the ass hole from my past that was even physically less than my husband.
Is marriage really gone, a thing of the past, all because we live in some fantasy world? Your story makes me think so. Why would women automatically assume you are a cuck? Because you are nice? That is actually very sad. But who am I to talk. Strong or those that value marriage, and make each other their fantasy.
kimcarl said:subd: are you a nice guy?
First, I need to say that Doc has told me I need to let this go and move on. I agree to some extent, or to a large extent on some level. However, there is an untold side to all of this that I think I need to tell, and I do it, sometimes on this site, and a lot on another general marriage website. My reasoning? Because it is clear there are various points of view and this effects lives in different ways, ways that are very real and life-altering, ways that come from fantasy, where fantasy significantly impacts reality and consequences are severe.
So, are you a nice guy? I am curious.
Are some of us, those that let this fantasy destroy our lives, fixated on ass holes? That they are the real men? My husband was masculine, nice, caring, yet I thought often about the ass hole from my past that was even physically less than my husband.
Is marriage really gone, a thing of the past, all because we live in some fantasy world? Your story makes me think so. Why would women automatically assume you are a cuck? Because you are nice? That is actually very sad. But who am I to talk. Strong or those that value marriage, and make each other their fantasy.
kimcarl said:subd: are you a nice guy?
First, I need to say that Doc has told me I need to let this go and move on. I agree to some extent, or to a large extent on some level. However, there is an untold side to all of this that I think I need to tell, and I do it, sometimes on this site, and a lot on another general marriage website. My reasoning? Because it is clear there are various points of view and this effects lives in different ways, ways that are very real and life-altering, ways that come from fantasy, where fantasy significantly impacts reality and consequences are severe.
So, are you a nice guy? I am curious.
Are some of us, those that let this fantasy destroy our lives, fixated on ass holes? That they are the real men? My husband was masculine, nice, caring, yet I thought often about the ass hole from my past that was even physically less than my husband.
Is marriage really gone, a thing of the past, all because we live in some fantasy world? Your story makes me think so. Why would women automatically assume you are a cuck? Because you are nice? That is actually very sad. But who am I to talk. Strong or those that value marriage, and make each other their fantasy.
Doc in Cleveland said:Not only do many suicides result from this [i.e., cuckolding] but many homicides, as well. I showed my esteemed colleague where there was a cuckolding situation near here (about 45 miles) where the guy just couldn't deal with it and shot what we call "The Bull". Shot the guy. Killed him. .... I.e., dudes get shot for fucking other men's wives. That shit happens. A lot.