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Murphy's Law
Dear will. I certainly have my reservations this time. It's your life STB and your wife and you will lead it in a way that you want, but I am almost certain that you will eventually end up loosing Sue this time. May be not physically....but emotionally!
And Dana thanks for reminding Murphy's law:
If something can go wrong it will. If nothing can go wrong something will.!
Dear will. I certainly have my reservations this time. It's your life STB and your wife and you will lead it in a way that you want, but I am almost certain that you will eventually end up loosing Sue this time. May be not physically....but emotionally!
And Dana thanks for reminding Murphy's law:
If something can go wrong it will. If nothing can go wrong something will.!
Will
why i put in about murphys law is that you said what could go wrong alot can go wrong.
and yes i do agree that sue will surprise us in someway on this.
and we need to give stb all the moral support that we can and if we see a red flag try and let him know so he can think about it and see if it is something that he sould watch.
and Harry i do agree that what will be will be. so i guess we need to see where it goes from here.
and stb keep us posted.
stb has sue said that she might want to go and see frank this week and are you and her going to do your normal wed. night fun or has that stoped for now.
why i put in about murphys law is that you said what could go wrong alot can go wrong.
and yes i do agree that sue will surprise us in someway on this.
and we need to give stb all the moral support that we can and if we see a red flag try and let him know so he can think about it and see if it is something that he sould watch.
and Harry i do agree that what will be will be. so i guess we need to see where it goes from here.
and stb keep us posted.
stb has sue said that she might want to go and see frank this week and are you and her going to do your normal wed. night fun or has that stoped for now.
Hey - stopped by here before bed and i see a flurry of responses.
Believe me, don't think we haven't been talking at the same time. She says she hears of the concerns and risks but then says the same things - that she will stay in control and that all this talk is moot if she can't find another guy.
It's all a bit moot if she doesn't, so in reality, if I want the playful, teasing and hot bedroom interplay to return, I feel I either have to find her next guy for her, or give her the room and support she seems to need to start looking herself.
I don't harbor the extreme fantasy of losing her or of her running off with a lover, nor does she. But at the same time I think we both recognize the type of lover she wants, and, perhaps even needs right now. I can only hope her confidence in her own emotional controls is as good as she hopes.
Is there really any other way to play this right now? I don't see many choices if she doesn't want to wait until Harry's divine-providence occurs.
Anyway - that's it for me tonight. More tomorrow, I'm sure.
Believe me, don't think we haven't been talking at the same time. She says she hears of the concerns and risks but then says the same things - that she will stay in control and that all this talk is moot if she can't find another guy.
It's all a bit moot if she doesn't, so in reality, if I want the playful, teasing and hot bedroom interplay to return, I feel I either have to find her next guy for her, or give her the room and support she seems to need to start looking herself.
I don't harbor the extreme fantasy of losing her or of her running off with a lover, nor does she. But at the same time I think we both recognize the type of lover she wants, and, perhaps even needs right now. I can only hope her confidence in her own emotional controls is as good as she hopes.
Is there really any other way to play this right now? I don't see many choices if she doesn't want to wait until Harry's divine-providence occurs.
Anyway - that's it for me tonight. More tomorrow, I'm sure.
STB
it looks like it is the only way to play it right now.
maybe you should give her the room and love and support to look on her own and see if sue takes the lead.
if not you might try and lead her to someone but i do not think that will work right now.
keep us posted.
ps glad that you two are talking about the concerns and the risks in this. good luck enjoy.
it looks like it is the only way to play it right now.
maybe you should give her the room and love and support to look on her own and see if sue takes the lead.
if not you might try and lead her to someone but i do not think that will work right now.
keep us posted.
ps glad that you two are talking about the concerns and the risks in this. good luck enjoy.
And - she's off to see Frank again tonight.
She even apologized to me for wanting to go see him but at the same time, I know she'd like even just a little while to escape and let loose (as little as she does with him....). She admitted that he is more amorous when it's been a while since they've been together - and she reminded me that he enjoys hearing about the sex she's had with me so she'll probably share some of our fun in Jamaica with him.
I should say that I finally understood something from her as part of this brief discussion last night before bed. She said that she's never really given into Frank's admitted enjoyment of her sex-life with me because it brings me (and family and all of that) into her time with him - and while it might make Frank a bit more horny, it detracts from what she's there for. Plus, and I'm guessing here, I'd think that this worked against them over time.
I told her this morning she didn't need to apologize for what she wants and that over time we'll figure things out. I joked with her that she should go out tonight and we can do some of our old-routine "have a little fun together tonight and then really go at it tomorrow?". She smiled - a big smile, bigger than I've seen in the last week - and then said "that sounds REALLY nice!!" and she gave me a huge hug that left no doubt of her feelings.
She even apologized to me for wanting to go see him but at the same time, I know she'd like even just a little while to escape and let loose (as little as she does with him....). She admitted that he is more amorous when it's been a while since they've been together - and she reminded me that he enjoys hearing about the sex she's had with me so she'll probably share some of our fun in Jamaica with him.
I should say that I finally understood something from her as part of this brief discussion last night before bed. She said that she's never really given into Frank's admitted enjoyment of her sex-life with me because it brings me (and family and all of that) into her time with him - and while it might make Frank a bit more horny, it detracts from what she's there for. Plus, and I'm guessing here, I'd think that this worked against them over time.
I told her this morning she didn't need to apologize for what she wants and that over time we'll figure things out. I joked with her that she should go out tonight and we can do some of our old-routine "have a little fun together tonight and then really go at it tomorrow?". She smiled - a big smile, bigger than I've seen in the last week - and then said "that sounds REALLY nice!!" and she gave me a huge hug that left no doubt of her feelings.
STB
it is good that you are supporting sue so well in this.
and about frank wanting to hear about your sex with sue is he wants to try and top you or take the top spot from you.
so at that point he is wanting to know what he has to do to do that with sue.
have fun if you and sue get the time to play out some of the old routine tonight.
keep us posted.
it is good that you are supporting sue so well in this.
and about frank wanting to hear about your sex with sue is he wants to try and top you or take the top spot from you.
so at that point he is wanting to know what he has to do to do that with sue.
have fun if you and sue get the time to play out some of the old routine tonight.
keep us posted.
I thought I'd poke back in here while waiting for her to get home tonight. She texted me that she'd left work later than expected. I replied that dinner can wait till she gets home and added a smiley face. I'm very horny but also know that I want to enjoy tonight and tomorrow night as we planned. I'm actually looking forward to it even without our Wednesday-routine last night. But I'll be the first to admit that I do miss her more actively cucking me.
Peak - I'm not complaining, as I expressed elsewhere in PM's, it's a refreshing break to have a bit of vanilla-stuff between us and reconnect. It's good for us, surely it's made it easier to talk about things and such without all of the other things still going on.
Dana - I'm sometimes confused by the spin you put on things. To clarify - Frank had told Sue and I long ago that he was turned on by her being married and I even seem to recall he'd asked her to come see him after she and I would have had sex together. I had always wondered why she'd never engaged him on that and now I understand - but it had nothing to do with him, it was all her as it wasn't something she wanted to share with him for her own reasons (that I now understand).
Oh well - gotta go and check on dinner waiting in the oven.
Peak - I'm not complaining, as I expressed elsewhere in PM's, it's a refreshing break to have a bit of vanilla-stuff between us and reconnect. It's good for us, surely it's made it easier to talk about things and such without all of the other things still going on.
Dana - I'm sometimes confused by the spin you put on things. To clarify - Frank had told Sue and I long ago that he was turned on by her being married and I even seem to recall he'd asked her to come see him after she and I would have had sex together. I had always wondered why she'd never engaged him on that and now I understand - but it had nothing to do with him, it was all her as it wasn't something she wanted to share with him for her own reasons (that I now understand).
Oh well - gotta go and check on dinner waiting in the oven.
